Bug 35993 - WIKIHELP: Wrong description for Header / Footer place
Summary: WIKIHELP: Wrong description for Header / Footer place
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.3.2 release
Hardware: All All
: low minor
Assignee: Jan Holesovsky
URL: http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/He...
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Reported: 2011-04-05 09:08 UTC by Rainer Bielefeld Retired
Modified: 2011-04-05 11:20 UTC (History)
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Description Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2011-04-05 09:08:53 UTC
This is a folow up to
Bug 33304 - Headers, footers in the margin

Help text concerning heading footer is at least misleading, I believe it's wrong.

Current text
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Header: Adds a header to the current page style. A header is an area in the top page margin, where you can add text or graphics. 

Should be
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Header: [...] A header is an area between the top page margin and the text body, [...] 

Reason
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Current description is wrong, Header is not IN the margin.


Same mistake on 
<http://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Footer>

Current text
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Footer: Adds a footer to the current page style. A footer is an area in the bottom page margin, where you can add text or graphics. 

Should be
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[...] is an area between the bottom page margin and the text body  [...] 

Reason
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Current description is wrong, Footer is not IN the margin.

LOCALHELP in localized Help packages and other languages of WIKIHELP: I checked WIKIHELP DE, ES, FR and found the same mistake.
Comment 1 Jan Holesovsky 2011-04-05 09:35:54 UTC
Rainer: Well, at least in English, 'margin' can both mean both the space, as well as the actual "very end" of the paper, so I think the wording is correct; or at least I do not find it misleading.  And if I am not mistaken, you can configure the header to cover just the entire upper margin, in which case the 'between' might be confusing...

Resolving as NOTABUG - please feel free to reopen if you really think it is wrong.
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2011-04-05 11:20:37 UTC
> Well, at least in English, 'margin' can both mean both the space, as
>  well as the actual "very end" of the paper

Also in German, French and Spanish, other languages I don't know. But it's without interest what other meanings "margin" might have in English, in LibO it's the area you adjust with Menu 'Format > Page > Margins'. That top margin is the area between the top border of the paper sheet and beginning of the text body (and I can't see any contradiction to your considerations).

> And if I am not mistaken, you can
> configure the header to cover just the entire upper margin, in which case the
> 'between' might be confusing...

You are wrong. The Top margin always is above the Header, at least within more than 8 years of using OOo and LibO I did not find a way to get the Heading into the the area defined with 'Format > Page > Margins > Top' (but, for example, it's possible to put a drawing into the margin area). Can you please try and leave a comment here, if your results differ from my ones?

If you do not get other results, the Help text is less precise that it could be. And indeed, now I am no longer satisfied with my suggestion for improvement. 

My new "Should be"
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[...] A header is a separate area between the top page margin (defined in Menu 'Format > Page > Margins > Top') and the main text body [...]