Now, LireOffice can use Ch (It should be a full-width "Character") as units for First Line Indent. It is a great feature that MOST CJK users use 2 Ch in their documents! :) However, "Ch" unit is fixed in deault font size (mine is 12). When Using different font size in different paragraghs, "Ch" should be variable to fit the actual font size of 2 full-width characters.
Created attachment 46191 [details] The fixed size of 2 Ch. See the fixed size of 2 Ch indent.
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Because the unit is "Character", the indent or others should be variable along with the font size. It is not solved at dev3.5 yet.
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Still reproduced in LibreOffice 4.3.5.2 on fedora 21.
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The bug still exists in the most recent version.
A workaround for Chinese users: Use CM (厘米) instead. 四号：0.98 厘米 小四：0.86 厘米 五号：0.74 厘米
See also: https://tieba.baidu.com/p/5516848517
I suggest Ch should be identical to em all the time while it used as units.
Addording to UAX 11 East Asian Width (https://www.unicode.org/reports/tr11/tr11-31.html#Overview): “For a traditional East Asian fixed pitch font, this width translates to a display width of either one half or a whole unit width. A common name for this unit width is “Em”. While an Em is customarily the height of the letter “M”, it is the same as the unit width in East Asian fonts, because in these fonts the standard character cell is square.” So we should making "Ch" unit identical to em unit.
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(In reply to QA Administrators from comment #14) The bug still exists in the most recent version.
Check the Format - Paragraph - Indent - Automatic, the first line of paragraph would indent two characters and would follow the font size. I think technically it is possible.
Even using English the "Enable char unit" is not precise either. When checking "Enable char unit" can it just use relative unit like "em"? https://www.w3.org/Style/Examples/007/units.en.html
Khaled, any idea about this? Font size seems to be calulated not correctly.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #18) > Khaled, any idea about this? Font size seems to be calulated not correctly. What's wrong with it?
This is still producible on current master. Anyone interest in this one, or could some devs give some code pointers and advices? I am adding Miklos Vajna to cc. Could you please advice? I am working bug 129448, they are related, but *this* one seems to be different and I do not know where to start, and I am not sure whether this is as easy as bug 129448 for me to work on.
By the way, with the fix for bug 129448 (patch currently under review: https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/125627), the first line indent will not be effected by line space, thus when first line indent is set to Auto, then it will always be precisely 2-characters indent, and the indent will be updated upon font size change. *This* bug is a little different as it only relates to when the "Use character units" option is enabled and one inputs an first line indent of e.g. "2 Ch" in the Paragraph Properties dialog. In other words, this bug is about the manually set first line indent, not Auto first line indent.
Created attachment 176991 [details] Test ODT Document As shown in this test document, the first line indent for the 1st paragraph is correctly 2-characters, whereas it is wrong in the 2nd paragraph.
Created attachment 176992 [details] screenshot showing the problem Attached is a screenshot illustrating the problem, as well as a comparison with MSO Word 2010.
It would be good to research what is that "ch" unit, I'm not familiar with that. Is that intentionally depending on the font size or is there a fixed conversion factor between ch and e.g. twips?
One ch unit means one character unit, which equals to the height of the character of the current paragraph using the font of the current paragraph style. In Chinese language there is a long standing convention that in a paragraph the first line indent should be 2 characters.
The series of commits which added the "character unit" are: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?qt=grep&q=cjk-character-units
(In reply to Kevin Suo from comment #10) Another workaround for Chinese users: Insert U+3000 IDEOGRAPHIC SPACE ( ) (known as 全角空格) twice at the beginning.
(In reply to Kevin Suo from comment #25) > One ch unit means one character unit, which equals to the height of the > character of the current paragraph using the font of the current paragraph > style. > > In Chinese language there is a long standing convention that in a paragraph > the first line indent should be 2 characters. This is also documented in the Requirements for Chinese Text Layout by W3C. https://www.w3.org/TR/clreq/#first_line_indents
*** Bug 123938 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
I'm sure that it may cause by Line Spacing, which will mess up first line indent using Character with CJK language if it's not on Sing Line. In my memory, Libreoffice did add the feather of first line indent using Character on 6.x version. But I find it only work on Sing Line. If I change to other Line Spacing, the characters of first line won't be aligned, and it will make no sense. Testing on Libreoffce 7.3, still not fixed
Some code reference: the CJK character units seems added by: https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/log/?qt=author&q=amwang
It seems that the ch and line units are implemented only when text grid is enabled, without the grid it defaults to a fixed value for both units.