Bug 38325 - Writer FORMATTING, UI: tab "Borders" on dialog "Page style" is not taking into account that "Mirrored page" setting is enabled
Summary: Writer FORMATTING, UI: tab "Borders" on dialog "Page style" is not taking int...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.4.0 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Page-Style-Dialog
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Reported: 2011-06-14 22:10 UTC by sanada
Modified: 2019-02-22 12:12 UTC (History)
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Attachments
Page layout dialog / asymmetry jpeg, odt files (388.88 KB, application/x-zip-compressed)
2011-06-14 22:10 UTC, sanada
Details
document contains different distance for even and odd pages (22.24 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2012-02-29 07:20 UTC, sasha.libreoffice
Details
odt similar to 57811. (not alternation of 'Only right' / 'Only left', use 'Mirrored'.) (20.80 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2012-03-01 19:51 UTC, sanada
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Description sanada 2011-06-14 22:10:40 UTC
Created attachment 47976 [details]
Page layout dialog / asymmetry jpeg, odt files

I have a question about a page layout.

In Writer(Text Document) page layout, selected menu 'Format | Page', displayed 'Page Style' dialog.

Selected "Mirrored" from "Page layout" combobox on 'Page' tab, to asymmetry page layout under some conditions.

please refer to attachemnt files.
(WinXP[ja] SP3/LibO 3.4.0)


"Mirrored" value work on only "Margins" item.

But not work on "Spacing to contents", also left and right lines in "Borders" tab.
Comment 1 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 12:26:47 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 2 sanada 2012-01-30 18:43:04 UTC
for JAPANESE:
-----------------

Writer文書のページレイアウトについて

[手順]
メニューバーより「書式|ページ」を選択し、『ページスタイル』ダイアログを表示します。

「ページ」タブ上の「ページレイアウト」コンボボックスより【左右対称】を選択します…
…いくつかの状態下では左右非対称となります。

問題点としては、ページの余白とパディングが追従しない点にあります。

【左右対称】を選択すると、同タブ画面上の『余白』項目はそれぞれ次のように変化します:
左→内側
右→外側

これに対し、「外枠」タブ画面上の『内容までの間隔』項目は変化しません:
左→左
右→右

ページレイアウトの影響範囲としては、「ページ」であるはずなので、
『外枠』タブ画面の枠線と間隔も併せて、内側/外側となるべきです。
Comment 3 sanada 2012-01-30 18:43:26 UTC
LibO 3.4.5 and 3.5.0 RC-2 isn't improved, too.
Comment 4 sasha.libreoffice 2012-02-29 07:20:14 UTC
Created attachment 57811 [details]
document contains different distance for even and odd pages

Thanks for bugreport and sorry for so long not answered.
As I understand, we need different distance from text to borders for odd and even pages. I have attached document that contains different distances from text to border for first page, even pages, odd pages.
Please, say: I right understand what needed?
Comment 5 sanada 2012-03-01 19:51:37 UTC
Created attachment 57891 [details]
odt similar to 57811. (not alternation of 'Only right' / 'Only left', use 'Mirrored'.)

thanks for the attachment of the odt file.

no problem about *settings* of distance from text to border in this page format.
(right about *image* of distance from text to border after first page.)


"Page layout" in the Page style format with this odt file:
  first page = 'Right and left'
  even page = 'Only right'
  odd page = 'Only left'
such settings.


I reported, about this "Page layout" settings is 'Mirrored'.

if 'Mirrored' settings,"Left" and "Right" become "Inner" and "Outer" each, in "Margins" displayed on same tab.

in contrast, remain unchanged in "Spacing to contents" displayed on "Borders" tab.


don't become bilaterally symmetric page layout, reason to:
"Left" and "Right" in "Spacing to contents" to remain unchanged "Inner" and "Outer".
Comment 6 sanada 2012-03-01 19:53:05 UTC
for JAPANESE:
-----------------
57891: 57811と似たodt(右のみ/左のみの交互ではなく、左右対称を使用)


このページ書式におけるテキストから枠線までの距離の<設定>につきましては問題ありません。
(先頭ページ以降でのテキストから枠線までの距離の<イメージ>については正しいです。)


このodtファイルでのページスタイル書式における「ページレイアウト」は:
 先頭ページ=左右
 偶数ページ=右のみ
 奇数ページ=左のみ
となっています。


私がレポートしたのは、この「ページレイアウト」設定が【左右対称】の場合についてです。

ページレイアウトを【左右対称】とした場合、
ダイアログの同タブ画面上の「余白」の左、右がそれぞれ内側、外側になります。

これに対して、「外枠」タブ画面上の「内容までの間隔」の左、右には変化ありません。


この「内容までの間隔」の左、右がそれぞれ内側、外側に変化しないことで、
左右対称のページレイアウトにはなりません。
Comment 7 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:02:08 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:03:09 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:07:43 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:09:49 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 sasha.libreoffice 2012-09-17 06:23:00 UTC
@ Sanada
Thanks for additional explanations.
As I can understand, if we in dialog Format->Page on tab "Page" changing "Page layout" field to Mirrored, then on most tabs of this dialog settings are tacking in account that now instead of left and right margin exist inner and outer. But tabs "Borders" and "Background" do not so. They remain using left and right margin instead of inner and outer.

IMHO it is Enhancement request.
And I do not know if it is possible to save such information into Oasis ODF format.

Possible Workaround: enable Header or Footer, disable there option "The same content on left/right", draw border as simple rectange and anchor this rectangle to Header or Footer.
Comment 12 Jorendc 2013-07-09 10:03:21 UTC
(In reply to comment #11)
> @ Sanada
> Thanks for additional explanations.
> As I can understand, if we in dialog Format->Page on tab "Page" changing
> "Page layout" field to Mirrored, then on most tabs of this dialog settings
> are tacking in account that now instead of left and right margin exist inner
> and outer. But tabs "Borders" and "Background" do not so. They remain using
> left and right margin instead of inner and outer.
> 
> IMHO it is Enhancement request.
> And I do not know if it is possible to save such information into Oasis ODF
> format.

Well, if that's the case this looks indeed an enhancement request to me too :).

Btw, we don't have to store this information in the ODF file format... As far I can see 'we' can check the page layout is mirrored. If so -> show other dialogs (inner/outer instead of left/right). On the background we still can 'calculate' with left/right and save it as such. :) but I'm not a dev.

Kind regards,
Joren