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Bug 38781 - LOCALHELP for WRITER Navigation Toolbar ('View -> Toolbars -> Navigation') missing
Summary: LOCALHELP for WRITER Navigation Toolbar ('View -> Toolbars -> Navigation') mi...
Status: RESOLVED MOVED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version:
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3.4.1 release
Hardware: Other All
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Blocks: HelpGaps-NewFeatures
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Reported: 2011-06-29 10:36 UTC by Rainer Bielefeld Retired
Modified: 2019-02-28 16:18 UTC (History)
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Description Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2011-06-29 10:36:18 UTC
This is a spin off from "Bug 38433 - UI:Edit > Changes enable navigation toolbar"

Can't find any Help for new Navigation Toolbar with "LibreOffice 3.4.1RC1 – WIN7  Home Premium  (64bit) English UI [OOO340m1 (Build:103)]". All I found is concerning Bar in Navigator.
Comment 1 bfoman (inactive) 2012-06-26 05:40:08 UTC
@reporter: Is this still valid? Could you update the status?
Comment 2 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-06-26 05:59:24 UTC
I still can't find in  3.7.0.0.alpha0+
And I still am not 100% sure. But I will risk it, because Extended Tooltipps also are rare and show only "Back" or "Forward".

@David:
Can you help?
Comment 3 Paul Weiss 2013-01-13 04:49:07 UTC
Help for Navigator is available in 3.6.4.3.
Comment 4 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2013-01-13 07:35:56 UTC
(In reply to comment #3)

@Paul Weiss:
Your comments would be more useful if you would contribute more concrete information. Where did you find that? Please contribute steps how to find that in LOCALHELP or WIKIHELP (<https://help.libreoffice.org/>)
Comment 5 Paul Weiss 2013-01-13 19:21:05 UTC
Oh, okay, I though it was obvious.
1. Press F1 to open local help.
2. Access help for Navigator in one of the following ways:
   a. Contents
      Text Documents->Command and Menu Reference->View->Navigator
     or for briefer help:
      Text Documents->Navigating Text Documents->Navigator for Text Documents
      Common Help Topics->Working with the User Interface->Navigatgor for Document Overview
     (there are probably other ways, too)
   b. Index->Navigator
   c. Find->Navigator
Comment 6 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2013-01-13 21:21:29 UTC
(In reply to comment #5)

@Paul Weiss
That's something different, you found the Help for the "Navigator", not the "Navigation Toolbar" (You can toggle view for "Navigation Toolbar" in menu 'View -> Toolbars -> Navigation'.

But I admit, that's rather worrying, because the Navigator also has a (different) "Navigation toolbar" for what you found some help.
Comment 7 Kumāra 2013-05-22 09:03:22 UTC
(In reply to comment #6)
> (In reply to comment #5)
> 
> @Paul Weiss
> That's something different, you found the Help for the "Navigator", not the
> "Navigation Toolbar" (You can toggle view for "Navigation Toolbar" in menu
> 'View -> Toolbars -> Navigation'.
> 
> But I admit, that's rather worrying, because the Navigator also has a
> (different) "Navigation toolbar" for what you found some help.

I agree. Perhaps the one in Navigator can be renamed as "Navigator Toolbar".
Comment 8 QA Administrators 2015-03-04 02:24:20 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 tommy27 2016-04-16 07:24:08 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 Olivier Hallot 2018-02-15 19:14:11 UTC
Adding UX eval to set if this navigation toolbar is really valuable to the UI. 

Behaviour is apparently erratic and lack of description does not help user.

e.g.

https://ask.libreoffice.org/en/question/114955/navigation-toolbar-appears-on-inserting-headerfooter-in-a-document/
Comment 11 Heiko Tietze 2018-02-17 08:40:31 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 Heiko Tietze 2018-02-18 08:33:48 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 V Stuart Foote 2018-02-18 21:52:52 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 14 V Stuart Foote 2018-02-18 22:07:00 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 15 Heiko Tietze 2018-02-22 17:33:55 UTC
UX topic moved to bug 115817, keeping this one open for docu.
Comment 16 Heiko Tietze 2018-04-20 13:54:46 UTC
(In reply to Olivier Hallot from comment #10)
> Adding UX eval to set if this navigation toolbar is really valuable to the
> UI. 
> 
> Behaviour is apparently erratic and lack of description does not help user.

Discussed this in the design meeting. The implementation might have room for improvement, ie. position/popup of controls, but the functionality itself is not questioned. So we keep it, perhaps in the future not as a standalone toolbar.
Comment 17 Olivier Hallot 2019-02-28 16:18:20 UTC
closing.
follow  bug 115817.