Bug 42920 - [UI] [EDITING] Add possibility to set a numbering level (over 1) for the Numbering Style specified for a Paragraph style
Summary: [UI] [EDITING] Add possibility to set a numbering level (over 1) for the Num...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
3.4.3 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
: 99239 (view as bug list)
Depends on:
Blocks: Chapter-Numbering Paragraph-Dialog Writer-Styles-Paragraph
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Reported: 2011-11-14 05:08 UTC by Mirosław Zalewski
Modified: 2019-12-27 22:45 UTC (History)
9 users (show)

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Crash report or crash signature:

exmaple file with extra styles + outline numbering (14.92 KB, application/3dr)
2011-11-14 11:50 UTC, Cor Nouws
document that demonstartes problem with numbering level (10.89 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2012-12-26 06:56 UTC, sasha.libreoffice

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Description Mirosław Zalewski 2011-11-14 05:08:24 UTC
In Paragraph styles, in Outline and Numbering tab user may specify outline level for specified paragraph(s). He or she can also assign numbering style with paragraph.

But after applying paragraph style to paragraph, it will always be level one Numbering. There is no way to adjust Numbering level, beside manually using Tab key (or toolbar button). In certain cases there is need for paragraph to automatically set into different Numbering level than 1.

Expected behavior:
There should be option to assign paragraph style with Numbering level as well, not only Outline level. It could be drop-down list right below Numbering style.

There was user who asked for help in achieving that in users LO mailing list:
Comment 1 Cor Nouws 2011-11-14 11:50:11 UTC
Created attachment 53553 [details]
exmaple file with extra styles + outline numbering

IMHO it can be done.
Pls look at the exameple attached
Comment 2 Mirosław Zalewski 2011-11-14 12:07:27 UTC
Cor Nouws: thanks for your reply.

But point of this request is providing some other way, so tabs will not be necessary. In your example, you add special style to headings and then press tab once to make them second level of list. Unfortunately, this is unacceptable for templates. In documents based on templates you should be able to just apply some style to heading and it should default to certain level on list. Right now you have to manually adjust level, because it defaults to level one.

Or did I not understand your example?
Comment 3 John 2011-11-14 15:30:59 UTC
I do much appreciate your help and suggestions. I have now created a bugzilla account so I can respond here.

An alternative implementation would be to automatically set the Numbering Level to the Outline Level set in the style without needing an additional control on the form. I am still not clear why both levels are needed. The level could still be altered using the Tab/toolbar.

I do know how to do it with a numbered list as in the example given by Cor, but as Mirosław Zalewski correctly said, I confirm that I really expected it to work without using the bullet toolbar using styles defined in my Template. LO is a great product on the whole. Cor's proposed solution (I have now looked at it) is still a work around that I already knew existed and have experimented with. It is also not a solution I want to present during my planned talk on LO styles and Templates on January 12 2012 (the date is not yet listed on www.gxcc.org.uk)

I have even been tempted to download the LO source code and have a look for myself! If I had more time I would do so out of interest but I the majority of my coding has been for a 1970s Operating System written in Assembler (1970-76) and my C (I assume is is in C or C++) is rather rusty after nearly 20 years (although I have dabbled with C# recently) and I have also never used any web based source code repositories and would have a significant learning curve to set up a suitable development environment.

Comment 4 sasha.libreoffice 2012-04-20 06:41:17 UTC
Also Writer has many styles with name Numbering, but numbers there not enabled. It is ok or it is a bug?
Comment 5 Joel Madero 2012-12-11 19:26:55 UTC
@Cor, can you take a look at this one again and see if it's a valid request? If so can we mark as NEW, if not can we close it?

Thanks in advance!
Comment 6 jcs.LibreOffice 2012-12-11 23:33:02 UTC
As the person who originally raised this issue PLEASE implement it as soon as possible. There is absolutely no logical reason for the current behaviour. I can easily do this in Word.
Comment 7 prasanna.barate 2012-12-24 13:11:26 UTC
step to reproduce:
1: create one document in world 2007/10 then
gives bulleting order
2: then press buuton ex: 1. parag
Comment 8 prasanna.barate 2012-12-24 13:14:16 UTC
steps tu reproduce:
 1: create word document (.doc/.docx)
 2: apply bulleting style to text
 3: press tab then it give foe 1.pra 1.1 prasa
 means bulleting can be applied level.
 4: create .odt file n try to follow this step it can give look level wise
Comment 9 jcs.LibreOffice 2012-12-24 13:56:17 UTC
Steps to reproduce problem (from the originator of this issue)

Create a custom outline numbered list -> Appendix Numbering
Make the level item  = A.
so that the L2 item  = A.1
and the L3 item is   = A.1.1

create a custom style based on Header 1 - Appendix 1
Attach the custom numbering list Appendix Numbering
Make the outline level for the style = 1

create a custom style based on Header 2 = Appendix 2
Attach the custom numbering list Appendix Numbering
Make the outline level for the style = 2

repeat for as many levels as you want

Create some text
apply Appendix 1 style - expected behaviour = number as A
Actual behaviour is correct

create some more text 
apply appendix 2 style - expected behaviour = number as A.1
Actual behaviour                              number as A

It shows Level 1, Outline level = 2 in the status bar.

It always applies the style numbering as Level 1 from the custom numbering style irrespective of the Outline Level defined in the paragraph style.

It should apply the Outline Level as defined in the style and not always use level 1.

I don't understand why there are both a Level and an Outline level shown in the status bar.
Comment 10 sasha.libreoffice 2012-12-26 06:42:03 UTC
Thanks for additional information. Reproduced in 3.6.4 on RFR 17 64 bit
Simpler steps to reproduce:
1. Select Numbering style and change it so that different levels of numbering become looking different.
2. Assign this Numbering style to any paragraph
3. Select this paragraph and try change option "Outline Level" on tab "Outline&Numbering" in dialog "Paragraph"
Expected: numbering become looking different
Actually: nothing changed
For comparison: buttons "Promote one level" and "Demote one level" change list level.
Comment 11 sasha.libreoffice 2012-12-26 06:56:26 UTC
Created attachment 72123 [details]
document that demonstartes problem with numbering level

What is interesting: msWord 2007 opens this document with the same numbering levels, and Calligra Words opens it differently (numbers 1,2,3 becomes without numbering).
Comment 12 Buovjaga 2016-04-24 17:21:37 UTC
*** Bug 99239 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 13 Regina Henschel 2017-07-02 00:41:46 UTC
This seems to be the problem as in bug 62032.
Comment 14 sdc.blanco 2019-12-27 22:45:18 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #13)
> This seems to be the problem as in bug 62032.

I agree with you.  But would propose not to mark this as a duplicate, because comment #2 here gives a good use case argument that is worth preserving (and the two bugs are linked with "See"). 

Have modified the summary to try to clarify the issue