Bug 53072 - Format > Columns should insert columns PRIOR to cursor paragraph i.e., in keeping with Insert > Section
Summary: Format > Columns should insert columns PRIOR to cursor paragraph i.e., in kee...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
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3.5.4 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Cell-Management
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Reported: 2012-08-02 21:19 UTC by Hyogapag
Modified: 2017-06-25 11:28 UTC (History)
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First example (82.20 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2014-06-01 21:58 UTC, Hyogapag
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Second example (82.24 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2014-06-01 21:59 UTC, Hyogapag
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Description Hyogapag 2012-08-02 21:19:11 UTC
When you make the last paragraph of your text a multicol one, it's not easy to add another 'normal' paragraph after that. You can use alt+enter but it's hard to discover and, what's more, it's not consistent with tables behaviour : when you add a table at the end of your document, it auto adds a paragraph after it.

So, for making LibreOffice more easily usable and to even its behaviour, I think it would be an interesting enhancement to auto add a paragraph after a multi-column one, if its the last.

Please note this is *not* a duplicate of this bug : https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=53059
Comment 1 Guillaume Vauvert 2013-01-27 10:48:53 UTC
I agree that it is not easy to find the "alt+enter" tips (I found it to thanks to this bug :-)).

But to impose a paragraph after a two-columns section is not good if you want to end your document with this two-columns section : you will loose a line.
Comment 2 retired 2013-11-23 18:21:16 UTC
Can you please provide a test document so this can be tested against and subsequently be confirmed.

also please provide a simple step-by-step description of how to reproduce the problem.

Setting to NEEDINFO until more detail is provided.

After providing the requested info, please reset this bug to UNCONFIRMED. Thanks :)
Comment 3 retired 2013-11-23 18:21:56 UTC
Forogt: Please first check if this bug is still valid / reproducible with the latest LO release?  Currently 4.1.3.2: http://www.libreoffice.org/download/

Could you please attach the document in question? That would help speed up the process of confirming and successively fixing this bug a lot. Thanks :)

Should this be still reproducible for you with the latest LO release please re-open this bug and we’ll go from there.
Comment 4 QA Administrators 2014-06-01 21:30:02 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 5 Hyogapag 2014-06-01 21:58:50 UTC
Created attachment 100255 [details]
First example
Comment 6 Hyogapag 2014-06-01 21:59:21 UTC
Created attachment 100256 [details]
Second example
Comment 7 Hyogapag 2014-06-01 22:01:36 UTC
Yes, the bug is still there, even in the 4.2.4 version. I provided two test documents : just try to make the first one look like the second one… to do so, you will HAVE TO press alt+enter, which is very hard to discover.
Comment 8 Owen Genat (retired) 2014-07-28 12:02:12 UTC
ALT+ENTER is the provided and expected method of breaking out of a section (columns) or table. The main point made in this report is the low discoverability of the ALT+ENTER functionality. I think at the very least the summary needs clarifying as to exactly what enhancement is being requested. Perhaps what is envisaged is some sort of hover-on-section-bottom pop-up menu? Auto-adding a paragraph after a section or table is not an appropriate solution.
Comment 9 Hyogapag 2014-07-28 12:33:53 UTC
> Auto-adding a paragraph after a section or table is not an appropriate solution.
Does it mean I should open a new bug because LibreOffice *does* automatically add a line after a table if the cursor is on the last line of the document ? Or that I should interpret LO behaviour with tables as an *insertion* of the table before the active paragraph ?
Anyway, the behaviour of LO is not consistent between tables and columns in spite of what you wrote.
In the bug description, would it be right if I request that Format > Columns *inserts* a multi-col paragraph instead of transforming the active paragraph into a multicol one ? This way, LO behaviour would be consistent between tables and columns, the discoverability issue would be gone and there would not be any auto added content.
Comment 10 Owen Genat (retired) 2014-07-28 14:54:39 UTC
(In reply to comment #9)
> Does it mean I should open a new bug because LibreOffice *does*
> automatically add a line after a table if the cursor is on the last line of
> the document ? Or that I should interpret LO behaviour with tables as an
> *insertion* of the table before the active paragraph ?
> Anyway, the behaviour of LO is not consistent between tables and columns in
> spite of what you wrote.
> In the bug description, would it be right if I request that Format > Columns
> *inserts* a multi-col paragraph instead of transforming the active paragraph
> into a multicol one ?

Oh sorry, I see what you mean now, and now I see why you are referring to "auto-insertion" of a paragraph.

a) Table > Insert > Table = object placed PRIOR to cursor paragraph.
b) Insert > Section       = section placed PRIOR to cursor paragraph.
c) Format > Columns       = section/columns placed IN the cursor paragraph.

This is an enhancement to get (c) to behave in a manner the same as (a) and (b). Seems reasonable - apologies for misunderstanding. Summary edited to clarify consistency in behaviour. Status set to NEW.
Comment 11 Hyogapag 2014-07-31 14:04:50 UTC
Don't be sorry, my bug description was not very clear. What's more, I realize I've been a bit rude in my last answer. So I'm sorry too. ;) Thank you very much for the rephrasing of both the summary and the need.