When opening Fontword in localized UI of LibreOffice the word "Fontwork" is used to display predefined samples of design, instead of using the localized word for "Fontwork" (in Slovenian "Stavec").
in which menu "fontwork" appears? please tell me in english since I do not understand slovenian
It does not appear in a menu, it is accessible from the "Drawing" toolbar in LibreOffice, here are the instructions from the official online LO help: https://help.libreoffice.org/Common/Fontwork_For_Graphical_Text_Art On that page you can probably find same help page localized in your language.
found it "View / Toolbars / Fontwork" in 4.1.1 under Win7 64bit In my italian localization "Fontwork" is not translated as well as in the slovenian version. I wonder if it's not translated also in other languages... maybe it's considered an international term. changing status to NEW and asking advise from localization expert added to CC list.
It depends how each localization team localized this term. If Italian team left it "Fontwork" in Italian, then it is right that the sample text in Fontwork in Italian version is "Fontwork". Slovenian team localized it as "Stavec", so I (and probably all Slovenian users) expect that sample text in Slovenian LO should appear as "Stavec" and not "Fontwork", because no one would know what it means. From what I can see in Pootle, the French team did not localize term "Fontwork", but the Turkish and Hungarian team did. But so did probably those teams that use different alphabets, at least transcribe it into their alphabet. From my point of view the sample text should adapt to the official translation/transliteration of "Fonwork" into UI-language.
(In reply to comment #4) > It depends how each localization team localized this term. If Italian team > left it "Fontwork" in Italian, then it is right that the sample text in > Fontwork in Italian version is "Fontwork". Slovenian team localized it as > "Stavec", so I (and probably all Slovenian users) expect that sample text in > Slovenian LO should appear as "Stavec" and not "Fontwork", because no one > would know what it means. > > .... snip .... so basically you say that in the slovenian localization "fontwork" is translated in some places and not translated in other leading to inconsistency, right?
No, I am saying that in Slovenian Fontwork (like I guess in Hungarian, Turkish etc.) is everywhere translated in po files (in Slovenian into "Stavec"). But when one uses Fontwork, the Fontwork applies a default effect onto default text, and that default text in LO is "Fontwork". That occurence of word "Fontwork" cannot be localized (it is not part of pot/po files) and I am proposing this as a bug - to make this sample text string "Fontwork" localizable. I hope I have been clear now.
Created attachment 85044 [details] fontowork gallery screenshot do you mean this? see attached image.
These are pre-drawn images from extras/source/gallery/gallery_system/sg36.* It would require a significant amount of coding to draw these preview images runtime respecting the UI language.
@Andras Timar You should create multiple version of pre-drawn shapes each one with it's localized name... IMHO is not worth it. I propose to set status to WONTFIX
I would be happy to localize predrawn images, so each language that wants it can have it. Since not all languages have localized the name of Fontwork, this means it could be used by a quarter of supported languages. This would not make the packages much bigger, I guess. Why not allow localization? Of course, if even this kind of implementation requires a lot of work, I understand. But I do not see it appropriate as WONTFIX. It is a bug. And it isn't a totally bogus one.
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(In reply to comment #10) > I would be happy to localize predrawn images, so each language that wants it > can have it. > ... cut ... >But I do not see it appropriate as WONTFIX. It is a bug. And it > isn't a totally bogus one. if you volunteer to localize those shapes I guess that there will no problem.
If I knew how to do this (edit those files) I would have done it already.
As these previews are all images with hardcoded “Fontwork” on them, then why don’t we change them so that they use a generic string such as “AaBbGg123”*? That way, it would be name-agnostic. --- * … and maybe we can add another set of images for Cyrillic languages (“АаБбГг123”) and Greek (“ΑαΒβΓγ123”) if you think it’s worth doing — I think so.
Or maybe we should replace "Fontwork" with "Abc123" for all languages? I know this does not work well for non-latin scripts, but at least it is a step forward.
(In reply to comment #15) > Or maybe we should replace "Fontwork" with "Abc123" for all languages? I > know this does not work well for non-latin scripts, but at least it is a > step forward. I agree that this name should be changed to something available for all languages, I like your Abc123 prosal too :) Sophie
I have a further proposal: why not display word "LibreOffice" in Fontwork? That should be ok for all.
(In reply to miles from comment #17) > I have a further proposal: why not display word "LibreOffice" in Fontwork? Not a fan of hardcoding the product name there. I still prefer what I suggested before: AaΒβГг123. (Now I’m combining the three script systems.) If I find a little time later, I can take this.
what about a "Lorem Ipsum" dummy text?
Interestingly, a similar problem was already resolved for themes. E.g. icon-themes/galaxy/cmd/ contains a bunch of subfolders with localized Bold, Italic and Underline buttons. Perhaps the same principle could be applied here?
I tried manually adding a fontwork from gallery and changed the wording to LibreOffice and it does look better to me when LibreOffice is used instead of "lorem ipsum" or "AaΒβГг123". One of the points in using it is to make a name, a brand, something important even more fancy (although this is more like design of the first half of the nineties). I am attaching a screenshot using one of the bundled fontwork shapes with all three proposals. How does one actually edit that gallery file to change the title in it?
Created attachment 117471 [details] A sample showing Fontwork title changed to something else
LibreOffice is much better than anything else.
If everyone here agrees, I would suggest changing the title of the bug to "Change Fontwork samples text to LibreOffice instead of Fontwork".