Created attachment 88456 [details] Different names for one function Problem description: When creating a pivot table, the naming of the functions can be confusing in several cases. Steps to reproduce: 1. Select a data range 2. Create a pivot table (Data > Pivot table > Create) and chose "current selection" 3. Drag and drop a source in the data field 4. Double click the source to choose a function Current behaviour: The following can be confusing to the user: - The "Average" function results in "Mean" appearing in the layout (see attached screenshot); - The "Count (numbers only)" function results in "Count" appearing in the layout, which is the same result as using the simple "Count" function; - The names "StDev" and "Var" might not be explicit enough. Expected behaviour: Ideally, each function should have a shortened name if needed, accompanied by a clear explanation between brackets in the functin selection window. A function name should be the same in the list and in the layout, and each function should have a different name to discern them in the layout. Operating System: All Version: 4.1.2.3 release
Confirmed, mark as New, change component to UI - Sophie
reproducible with LO 4.3.2.2 (Win 8.1)
*** Bug 88897 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
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This issue is exactly the same in current "Still": Version: 5.0.5.2 Build ID: 1:5.0.5~rc2-0ubuntu1~trusty1 Locale: en-GB (en_GB.UTF-8)
I have made three tests on Windows 7 with three different versions: =========================== SUMMARY INFO =========================== 1. LibreOffice Still 5.0.5.2 (the same problem) 2. LibreOffice Fresh 5.1.0.3 (the same problem) 3. LibreOffice master 5.2.0.0-alfa0+ nightly (can't test, looks like broken) =========================== DETAILED TESTS =========================== TEST 1: There are the following options from menu: Data | Pivot table | Create Data | Pivot table | Refresh Data | Pivot table | Delete The naming problem is the same as in "Description" of this bug. From Help | About menu: Version: 5.0.5.2 Build ID: 55b006a02d247b5f7215fc6ea0fde844b30035b3 TEST 2: There are the following options from menu: Data | Pivot table | Pivot table Data | Pivot table | Refresh Data | Pivot table | Delete Note: The first option is strange, double "Pivot table". Don't know if this is additional bug or new "feature". The naming problem is the same as in "Description" of this bug. From Help | About menu: Version: 5.1.0.3 Build ID: 5e3e00a007d9b3b6efb6797a8b8e57b51ab1f737 CPU Threads: 3; OS Version: Windows 6.1; UI Render: default TEST 3: There are the following options from menu: Data | Pivot table | Refresh Data | Pivot table | Delete Note: This is even more strange. There are only two options available from menu. I don't know if something has changed or there is something broken. I expect to have "Create" option after I mark cells in spreadsheet, but it is not available. From Help | About menu: Version: 5.2.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 6d5eeb6af585ae525645d844cbbd56e76678a0af CPU Threads: 3; OS Version: Windows 6.1; UI Render: default; TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2016-02-22_00:12:04
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Tested in: Version: 6.0.6.2 Build ID: 1:6.0.6-0ubuntu0.18.04.1 CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; Locale: en-AU (en_GB.UTF-8); Calc: group The results are slightly different to the original description: "Average" is now the same word in the menu, the layout and the pivot table headers, which is good. However, there is still potential confusion in the naming of functions: - Some names are still abbreviated and never spelled out ("StDev" and "Var"), which makes it less accessible for people who don't know what they stand for; - The layout and the pivot table headers do not make the distinction between the variations of Count, StDev, and Var: both the layout and the pivot table headers only show "Var" for both "Var" and "VarP", "StDev" for both "StDev" and "StDevP", and "Count" for "Count" and "Count (numbers only)".
Confirming the same issue as described in comment 8, with: Version: 6.3.1.2 Build ID: 1:6.3.1~rc2-0ubuntu0.18.04.1~lo1 CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-GB Calc: threaded
Created attachment 172311 [details] same name for different functions in dialogue Confirmed as described in comment 8 with: Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha1+ / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 4a9eef7849a75ba91806886ea9c96d114c8d56f9 CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3 Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@86-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2021-05-22_06:45:25 Calc: threaded
Created attachment 172312 [details] example pivot table with repeated names (LO 7.2) On top of having the same (abbreviated) name for variations of one function in the dialogue, the same is shown in the resulting pivot table, as shown in the example document (second sheet). This means that columns with the same title show different results in the pivot table.
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Still relevant as in comment 8 in recent trunk build: Version: 24.2.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 5589659829f8a1cef8ca1c8a468732105bbe231b CPU threads: 8; OS: Linux 5.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3 Locale: en-AU (en_AU.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded Same issue with pivot table headings in OOo 3.3, so issue is inherited.