Bug 73086 - FORMATTING: Enhancement: Additional Style Elements in Impress for graphical objects
Summary: FORMATTING: Enhancement: Additional Style Elements in Impress for graphical o...
Status: NEW
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Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Impress (show other bugs)
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Inherited From OOo
Hardware: Other All
: medium enhancement
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Reported: 2013-12-28 05:49 UTC by bugquestcontri
Modified: 2014-01-07 09:22 UTC (History)
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Description bugquestcontri 2013-12-28 05:49:50 UTC
Problem description
Currently in Impress there are 2 style categories available:
- Graphical Styles
- Presentation Styles

I use and like the styles functionality in LibO in general very much. In Impress i defined some 10-20 styles. The problem I observe is that each style has 14 sub^elements, which require a lot of set-up work to define a few styles with all sub-elements required.

All the many variations which are in Impress given are great and needed in general

However, very often company regulations or personal preferences require a strong limitation of the possible features of a graphical elements. 
I personally use as 5 standard fillings with certain fonts but the text options require a few more variations. Thus the 5 standard fillings with certain fonts would than become 15 standard fillings with certain fonts and text feactures. This would explode the number of current Graphical Styles


Proposal
Add  A new style category "Graphical Styles Elements" which allow creation of styles for all 14 subelements.

This would allow users to create styles like 
Area_red
Area_blue
Area_gradient_ bluewhite_vertical
etc

Text_ top left alignement
Text_ word wrap_no resize
etc

Line_red
Line_blue
LIne_redthin
LIne_red thick
etc


Such  a functionality would allow me to have a few styles for graphical objects (as they are right now) and add a few Graphical Styles Basics. The latter I could use to create the varitions of the first styles.

My current work around is a list of styles I am using to adjust graphical objects the way I want them to appear in my company standard.

I can be contacted for discussions and tests. 


              
Operating System: All
Version: 4.1.4.2 release
Comment 1 Cor Nouws 2013-12-28 09:06:11 UTC
Hi :)

I've read your proposal a few times, but do not get my head around it...
I mean, it already is possible to create styles like 
 Area_red
 Area_blue
etc etc from the Default style...

So would you pls be so kind to explain in a different way what you mean :)
thanks a lot.

Cor
Comment 2 bugquestcontri 2013-12-31 05:26:07 UTC
Hi Cor,

Thanks for reading the proposal.

When I now create a style: Area_red and I want to change an object from another color to red using the style Area_red, all other elements of graphical objects must be the same.(font, font size, color, line, alignment, etc) as in the original object otherwise they change the same time the area color changes to red.

If I only want to change only the color, I can do so by opening the Area settings and select the red I want to use. This is always possible but a bit cumbersome in the case or company template. In my company template (and this is valid for many companies)
only the use of a few, well defined colors is permitted.  (The same is valid for fonts, line colors etc) 

For such cases a set of "Graphical Style Elements" would be very effective. 

Thus if I define Area_red and apply it, all other of an object will remain the same except the area color will change to red.

The same is valid for any other "Graphical Style Element".

If I my explanations are still unclear, please ask again.

ROSt
Comment 3 Cor Nouws 2014-01-03 10:19:11 UTC
Hi ROSt,

thanks for replying and the extra explanation.

(In reply to comment #2)

> Thus if I define Area_red and apply it, all other of an object will remain
> the same except the area color will change to red.
> 
> The same is valid for any other "Graphical Style Element".

OK, that is clear.
But then I think: how much does that differ (it does, I know) from applying direct formatting ?
You suggest a sort of stapled use of styles, after all.

And you know what you can do with inherritence of styles too?
   Style X = (example) Bold, Green, Red line, Blue background
   in Style Y (based on X) only change line to Yellow..
   Then a change in the other attributes of Style X will also affect style Y.

Your proposal would add another different logic-behaviour.
Is it needed that much, that it would make it worth (apart from the enginering time, also the extra complicexity it would introduce ..) ?

Cheers,
Cor
Comment 4 bugquestcontri 2014-01-07 06:20:41 UTC
Hi Cor,

I know that this request would add complexity. Unfortunately. I just think it would make sense and increase productivity especial for "corporate ID" requirements. Because I know many companies which care about their presentation styles I wrote this enhancement request.

I also understand that our resources are limited.....

Your proposals with style Y, style X is my current work around. To keep always track and make sure all is updated. I added a table with all this information at the end of my Impress template.... and delete it before I present....

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Comment 5 Cor Nouws 2014-01-07 09:22:43 UTC
OK, thanks for the info. Set this to New.
A nice one to look at when considering improvements in Impress.