Bug 74731 - Help font on OSX very large
Summary: Help font on OSX very large
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
4.2.0.4 release
Hardware: Other macOS (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Andras Timar
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Reported: 2014-02-09 01:04 UTC by Martin Srebotnjak
Modified: 2014-03-16 22:17 UTC (History)
1 user (show)

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Large help content font (177.99 KB, image/png)
2014-02-09 01:04 UTC, Martin Srebotnjak
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word and lo help comparison osx (233.11 KB, image/png)
2014-02-09 13:43 UTC, retired
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before (258.88 KB, image/png)
2014-03-15 18:27 UTC, Andras Timar
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after (268.86 KB, image/png)
2014-03-15 18:27 UTC, Andras Timar
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Description Martin Srebotnjak 2014-02-09 01:04:11 UTC
Created attachment 93687 [details]
Large help content font

It seems there is a new font used in displaying online help, which is ok. But the font size on OS X seems too large. See attached screenshot.
Comment 1 retired 2014-02-09 12:55:30 UTC
I think font size is fine. Not sure if this is indeed a bug.

cc: Astron for some design feedback perspective on this.
Comment 2 Martin Srebotnjak 2014-02-09 13:35:08 UTC
I do not think it is fine. Compared to built-in OS X help, as well as to Microsoft Office on OS X help this is an enormous font size.

Displaying only 13 lines of help text means a lot of unwanted scrolling thus making it really user unfriendly.

It's just bad UX, not a feature (this could only be a feature for users of accessibility tools for visually impaired people that need larger fonts).
Comment 3 retired 2014-02-09 13:43:17 UTC
Created attachment 93709 [details]
word and lo help comparison osx
Comment 4 retired 2014-02-09 13:43:43 UTC
You def got a point. Added comparison of Word and LO help.

NEW.
Comment 5 Stefan Knorr (astron) 2014-02-10 00:14:01 UTC
The screenshot from comment 0 definitely has a very large font. The screenshot from comment 3 looks okayish (slightly larger than normal but acceptable) to me.

Miles@filmsi.net, have you made any changes to settings, recently? (Not sure where exactly such a setting might hide, but maybe in Tools > Options, under LibreOffice/Fonts or so.)
Comment 6 Stefan Knorr (astron) 2014-02-10 00:17:09 UTC
Sorry, the Options window is at a different place on Mac: it should be LibreOffice > Preferences instead of Tools > Options there.
Comment 7 Martin Srebotnjak 2014-02-10 00:21:42 UTC
No, I did not change anything there.
I do remember older versions of LO on OSX and this was not the case there. Should probably download some older versions to check.
My Fonts settings there are untouched, but changing them does not affect help content display.
Comment 8 Scott 2014-03-02 23:33:26 UTC
No settings in OS X or in LibreOffice control or cause this insanely large font. The software does not appear to use Apple's standard Help system—and I appreciate that! The LibreOffice help system is much more complete and responsive, if it were not for the aggravatingly big font.

Even if one had poor vision, the big font only affects help text, but the help navigation setup on the left of the help pane is all a standard small (normal) font. 

Seems like it should be an easy thing to deal with: What exactly tells Mac OS what font and size to use in the help text display, that is unique to that text block? Can a user control be implemented so that particular font size can be changed by the user?
Comment 9 Andras Timar 2014-03-15 18:27:24 UTC
Created attachment 95864 [details]
before

Isn't it a duplicate of bug 75040? If you think so, please close this bug as RESOLVED DUPLICATE. I post OSX screenshots of before/after state.
Comment 10 Andras Timar 2014-03-15 18:27:57 UTC
Created attachment 95865 [details]
after
Comment 11 Martin Srebotnjak 2014-03-15 20:21:17 UTC
Andras, it hardly is a duplicate, because my report was first :D
From your screenshot it cannot be confirmed, because your "before" state does not include the enormous font. Of course, it can be the case that this "serif" font on OS X is a very large one.
I will only be able to test this when an OS X build with Slovenian langpack is available. I guess this will be 4.2.4?
Comment 12 retired 2014-03-16 22:17:57 UTC
Confirming the fix. Help now displays much smaller in the latest nightly from today.

Thanks a lot for the fix, Andras. Very welcome improvement :)

Commit and details here: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=75040