Created attachment 113668 [details]
shows whats on the pc screen to see - missing bold !
As can be seen in the text output on the screen text.png there is a text shown with some parts in italics and only some words in the top line shown bold.
The file 2015_test_.pdf shows the pdf export from this. As can be seen the pdf correctly shows what really is bold and the text itself does not show this correctly.
This seems to be a bug. I hope this can be resolved.
Created attachment 113669 [details]
test file showing the text itself for testing
Created attachment 113670 [details]
pdf file showing correct output
TESTING with 18.104.22.168 on Ubuntu 14.04
(In reply to Dr. Matthias Weisser from comment #0)
> As can be seen in the text output on the screen text.png there is a text
> shown with some parts in italics and only some words in the top line shown
> The file 2015_test_.pdf shows the pdf export from this. As can be seen the
> pdf correctly shows what really is bold and the text itself does not show
> this correctly.
NOREPRO: I see bold sections throughout the document, both in the PDF output and in the document as rendered in LibreOffice directly.
Matthias: Do you see the same issues in a current version of LO such as 22.214.171.124 ?
Status -> NEEDINFO
Robinson: I tried now with the newest version of LO 126.96.36.199. Unfortunately still the problem can be seen. As you can see in the odt file and the screen dump from this (attachment 1) only the words "ins Koma fielen älter waren" and "länger operiert" are shown bold. All other words are only shown "normal" or "italic".
When looking at the pdf the things are different. In this file also the words "Todesfälle" and "9 davon waren alt und gesundheitlich angeschlagen" and "Ödeme im Gehirn" and "im CT zu sehen" and so on can clearly be seen in bold.
In the odt file this "bold" format is given and can be seen in the format line.
But it is not shown in the text to edit.
"But it is not shown in the text to edit" should be
"But it is not shown in the text to edit when in addition to bold also italics are used". Seems to be a coding problem.
Can not reproduce on Windows 7 sp1, 64-bit en-US with
Build ID: de093506bcdc5fafd9023ee680b8c60e3e0645d7
The document is well formed with itallics and bold fonts. It matches the rendering in PDF.
Same result as V S Foote, it matches the pdf.
Win 7 Pro 64-bit, LibO Version: 188.8.131.52
Build ID: 45e2de17089c24a1fa810c8f975a7171ba4cd432
This was right around the time that a Microsoft update caused some fonts to render poorly. I remember because something I was working on suddenly looked like it came off a printing press. I thought it was LO but it also affected other applications.
These were for Vista and Server 2003 and 2008. I don't know if there were other updates that affected Windows 7 and 8.
Has this problem resolved itself with a newer version of LO?
Set to NEEDINFO. Set back to UNCONFIRMED once you have provided the necessary information.
(In reply to Gordo from comment #8)
> These were for Vista and Server 2003 and 2008. I don't know if there were
> other updates that affected Windows 7 and 8.
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3013455 (culprit)
> https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3037639 (fix)
thank you very much for this hint. I am still using XP. May be also there is a fix for XP. I do not know one at the moment.
> Has this problem resolved itself with a newer version of LO?
not yet. As you can see above I tried using LO 184.108.40.206. Looking at
I do not see a stable newer version. They are telling about 4.3.7. Seems to be that a 4.4.3 is available. Should I try using that?
5.0.0. seems to be quite unstable at the moment.
> Set to NEEDINFO. Set back to UNCONFIRMED once you have provided the
> necessary information.
I set to unconfirmed again.
Look for something like "View update history" in the Control Panel under Windows Updates. Sort by date and look for KB3013455.
You can try uninstalling the update and run updates again but if you are not on extended support then you might be out of luck. That means the only way to have the fonts work is to leave that fix uninstalled but be vulernable to an exploit.
If that is not the problem then you can always try 220.127.116.11.
(In reply to Gordo from comment #10)
> Look for something like "View update history" in the Control Panel under
> Windows Updates. Sort by date and look for KB3013455.
Thank you very much for this hint Gordo !
There is no field "Windows Updates" under "Systemsteuerung".
I can use "Systemsteuerung" "Software" "updates anzeigen" to see updates.
The last KB updates that I installed were from 2012. No such after that date.
There is no KB3013455 here. This seems to be a "February 2015 update" not intended for use with my WinXP. So it should not be the cause for this trouble.
> If that is not the problem then you can always try 18.104.22.168.
I can have a try.
I did now install LO 22.214.171.124. Its the same problem there. Bold is not shown correctly when also italics is choosen. Switching off italics shows the missing bold coming up.
The only other thing I can suggest is to rename your profile folder (https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/User_Profile).
(In reply to Gordo from comment #13)
> The only other thing I can suggest is to rename your profile folder
I did this now. Just renamed the "user"-folder into "user_old".
Unfortunately nothing changed. The same behaviour also could be seen on my laptop. I do not feel that on both systems the profile got corrupt.
Hi, it's me again. Is this still a pain in the ass? ba dum tss.
If you select "Todesfälle" and right click -> Character -> Font tab, what does it say between the language and the preview box? Is it "The same font will be used on both your printer and screen." or is it "This font style will be simulated or the closest matching style will be used."? If it is the latter then perhaps the Times New Roman Bold Italic file (timesbi.ttf) is corrupt. Yet that would not explain why you can export it to pdf and see it okay. Nor why it is happening on two different machines.
(In reply to Gordo from comment #15)
> Is this still a pain in the ass?
> If you select "Todesfälle" and right click -> Character -> Font tab, what
> does it say between the language and the preview box? Is it "The same font
> will be used on both your printer and screen."
yes: "Für Ausdruck und Anzeige am Bildschirm wird die gleiche Schriftart verwendet."
> Yet that would not explain why you can export it to pdf and see
> it okay. Nor why it is happening on two different machines.
yes. Its the same windows XP installed on both machines.
not reproducible using LibO 126.96.36.199 under Win8.1 x64
please tell if you still see this issue with latest LibO release.
status NEEDINFO until you give feedback.
Tommy, on my PC and laptop I am now using Win7 64bit instead of WinXP. There is no problem to see using Win7. Unfortunately I do not have an XP machine running now for testing.
may be somebody else still has XP for testing this?
no XP machine for me too....
maybe Pedro has one (added to CC' list)
I tested, and could reproduce it in Windows XP: at 85% zoom level the text looked fine, but at 75% bolditalic parts became italic.
Then I tested in WordPad, and got the same result there: after zooming out, bolditalic text turned into italic, and regained boldness when zooming back in.
So this seems to be a limitation of Windows XP's font rendering, and therefore NOTOURBUG.
(In reply to tommy27 from comment #20)
> no XP machine for me too....
> maybe Pedro has one (added to CC' list)
I have Windows XP at work (so I can only test on weekdays during lunch break)
It's OK to add me to CC list ;)
Original issue reproducible with test file (attachment 113669 [details])
on Windows XP Pro SP3 running as a VMWare guest VM
Build ID: 37b43f919e4de5eeaca9b9755ed688758a8251fe
Locale: en-US (en_US)
and current release.
Build ID: d54a8868f08a7b39642414cf2c8ef2f228f780cf
CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Windows 5.1; UI Render: default;
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: group
Zooming in and out impacts bold value of the GDI font rendering.
Concur, RESOLVED NOTOURBUG
thanks you guys for all the testing.