Apple uses systemwide command + ? for opening the help. We should od that to and not using F1 as on other operating systems.
Agreed
Disagree. What Cmd-? does in Mac applications is not opening the help. Instead, Cmd-? opens the help menu and puts the focus to its search field. From that search field, all menu entries can be searched. This works perfectly fine in the current LibreOffice 4.4.3.2 – no need for any fixes.
cmd-? opens the help. Go to the addressbook or in textedit and hit Cmd-? The help opens for that application. Even Opera Software's Opera12 opens a web page explaining how to use the browser. In LibO4.4.3.2 nothing happens when hitting Cmd-? Or did I misunderstood you @j_mach_wust ?
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Dennis is right, the menu of standard apps lists this key combination as shortcut and command + ? (even on the German keyboard cmd+shift+ß) opens the help / user guide. So yes, we should change the default on macOS. Not sure about the easyhackability, removing the keyword.
MSO has assigned Cmd+? to the help, F1 does nothing. KEY_F1 is hard-coded to the help at various places. It requires some work around bug 41560 first.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7) > Dennis is right, the menu of standard apps lists this key combination as > shortcut and command + ? (even on the German keyboard cmd+shift+ß) opens the > help / user guide. Interesting. For me, on both macOS Sonoma and Tahoe, pressing Command-? (which translates to Command-Shift-/ on my Canadian QWERTY keyboard layout) displays the Help menu in the menubar just like Safari does. Maybe this bug only occurs with certain keyboard layouts?
(In reply to Patrick (volunteer) from comment #9) > Maybe this bug only occurs with certain keyboard layouts? The Help menu also appears when I am using the Japanese Kana keyboard layout. Am I doing different than everyone else?
The Help menu tells you what this command does and what shortcut it uses: "Safari Help Cmd+?".
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11) > The Help menu tells you what this command does and what shortcut it uses: > "Safari Help Cmd+?". Interesting. In Safari on macOS Tahoe, the Help menu has no key shortcuts assigned. So, when I press Command-?, only the Help menu appears. To actually open Safari's help, I need to click the Safari > Help > Help menu item after Command-? is pressed. I will attach a snapshot of what I see.
Created attachment 203471 [details] Help menu that appears after pressing Command-? in Safari on macOS Tahoe
Created attachment 203472 [details] Screenshot Help menu Tahoe/Safari 26.0.1
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #14) > Created attachment 203472 [details] > Screenshot Help menu > > Tahoe/Safari 26.0.1 Weird. I'm on macOS Tahoe 26.0.1 as well and I don't see any key shortcuts in Safari's, TextEdit's, or System Settings' Help menu.
Created attachment 203475 [details] App Shortcut to delete or disable I found the cause for why I don't see any Command-? key shortcuts in the Help menu in any of Apple's application: I had a "Show Help Menu" shortcut defined in the "App Shortcut" category in the System Settings application. If I deleted or uncheck that shortcut and restart Safari, I see the same shortcut as in attachment #203472 [details].