Bug 93578 - Insufficient separation between Help and OK buttons when the dialog is small
Summary: Insufficient separation between Help and OK buttons when the dialog is small
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: All All
: low enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
Depends on:
Blocks: Dialog-UX
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Reported: 2015-08-21 16:23 UTC by dabisu
Modified: 2017-10-22 19:51 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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split cell dialog (4.95 KB, image/png)
2015-08-24 16:13 UTC, dabisu

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Description dabisu 2015-08-21 16:23:58 UTC
Yes, i know, it is to offer you help. But, honestly, how many times have you clicked those buttons?

I do. A lot of times. The problem is that i don't want to. But because the Help button is besides the Accept button, i cannot avoid to click it and see how the web browsers opens... and that just angers me. It should be renamed to "Anger" button :-P

I usually work with tables and i forgot how many times i misclicked the create table dialog or split cell dialog Help buttons.

My enhancement proposal is to completely remove the Help button in dialogs.

Comment 1 Cor Nouws 2015-08-21 17:02:35 UTC
Exceptional for me, but no further comments.
Comment 2 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2015-08-21 21:51:36 UTC
> But because the Help button is besides the Accept button

In the past I have committed some patches to move the Help button out of the way of OK/Cancel. Can you point me to a specific dialog that has the Help button besides OK? Feel free to attach a screenshot.
Comment 3 dabisu 2015-08-24 16:13:10 UTC
Created attachment 118127 [details]
split cell dialog

split cell dialog
Comment 4 dabisu 2015-08-24 16:14:50 UTC
Comment on attachment 118127 [details]
split cell dialog

Example dialog for this bug.
Comment 5 dabisu 2015-08-24 16:18:48 UTC
Who changed this bug status to RESOLVED-INVALID the next day i added it? Did my proposal get voted and i didn't noticed it? Is it this the way the LibreOffice community responds to enhancement proposals?
Comment 6 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2015-08-25 12:26:02 UTC
There’s no need of being silly. This was marked INVALID because your initial proposal was just killing off the Help buttons, which we won’t do. Also, just look at this bug report’s title, I quote, “What's the point of Help button in dialogs?”. Oh well. I’m fixing that now.

Re. comment 3: Thank you for the screenshot. That dialog is really tiny (in fact, the Help-OK-Cancel strip is bigger). I think it’s reasonable to move the buttons to the right and arrange them vertically in this case; it’s nonstandard, but unless the dialog grows more options, I guess it’ll be helpful to do it.
Comment 7 dabisu 2015-08-27 09:49:06 UTC
Great argument: "It's silly. We won't do". Have you asked other users or you just decided it by yourself? It's nice to see Libreoffice is developed under the paradigms of consensus and cooperation.
Comment 8 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2015-08-28 09:04:59 UTC
(In reply to dabisu from comment #7)
> Great argument: "It's silly. We won't do".

That is not what I said.