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Step to reproduce:
1/ open a new spreadsheet
2/ activate the sidebar if necessary
3/ under Number Format the first dropdown list shows General
4/ select A1, right click and choose Format Cells in category dropdown list there is no general category
I think that the sidebar dropdown list should show Standard instead of General.
Best regards. JBF
Very weird. I saw "General" both in sidebar AND number formatting dialog, but ...
... then I switched Language in number formatting dialog (the combobox in top right corner of it) to "French - France" i.e. the same JBF has ...
... and voila, "Standard" appears in number formatting dialog, while "General" stays in sidebar :)
Anyway, confirmed. Some languages have "Standard", some have "General". This needs to be unified. Slightly reluctant to make this easy hack, as there might be some gotcha ...
(In reply to Katarina Behrens (CIB) from comment #1)
> Anyway, confirmed. Some languages have "Standard", some have "General". This
> needs to be unified. Slightly reluctant to make this easy hack, as there
> might be some gotcha ...
All translation of "General" format can be found in each 155 locale files, on next line defining "FixedFormatskey1"
This wording is used in Format > Cells > Number dialog
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Hi, I have started working on this bug. Initially i was confused about whether the issue is with inconsistent locale data or with the sidebar. I uploaded a patch to ensure that all languages have "General" (instead of standard) in the xml files. The number formatting dialog is in sc/source/ui/sidebar/NumberFormatPropertyPanel.cxx. According to me the problem is : Sidebar contents aren't updated when we change languages. we can add some code in the action listeners of Format Cells dialog so that the sidebar contents are updated. I would really appreciate if someone could provide a more clear description or some code pointers ...
@ Rohan Kumar
From my point of view, the problem is that General format should be a category and not a format.
In Gnumeric and Excel, General (or Standard) is a category without option, different from Number and Scientific, as General is a mix of these two categories.
This would imply refactoring Number Format UI dialog.
General (or Standard, or ...) is one specific number format, not a category. And it is up to the localization of the locale data (.xml file) if and how it is translated. Usually it is translated to the same word that Excel uses in the corresponding localized version, but not necessarily.
The problem is that "General" format is considered as a format in Format>Cell>Number dialog, and as a category in the Sidebar. They are translated in different file for each UI:
- dialog box: i18npool/source/localedata/data/xx_XX.xml http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/s?n=25&start=0&q=FixedFormatskey1&sort=fullpath&project=core (see Comment 2)
- Sidebar: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/translations/source/fr/sc/uiconfig/scalc/ui.po#8090 replace "fr" with your local
Each localization should check if both are translated in the same way.
@Laurent BP. The localization inconsistency is a side effect of this bug. I have actually committed a patch related to the localization inconsistency issue :https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/23310/ . Is this which you were saying about the languages translated the same way?
(In reply to Rohan Kumar from comment #9)
> @Laurent BP. The localization inconsistency is a side effect of this bug. I
> have actually committed a patch related to the localization inconsistency
> issue :https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/23310/ . Is this which you were
> saying about the languages translated the same way?
Yes, but no. In your patch, you made no translation. You just forced to use an English word. For instance in French (language which I can understand ;-) ) you replaced "Standard" (which is a valid French word) with "General" which is not valid in French (it should be written "Général"). I suppose that same problem occurs in other languages.
What should be done for each l10n:
1. Check inconsistency: is there a different translation in both places Number dialog/Sidebar (see Comment 8)? If not, there is nothing to do (like in French, because "Standard" was chosen as preferred translation by the l10n community
2. Ask l10n community what is the preferred translation or warn l10n community on firstname.lastname@example.org
3. Change translation in Sidebar OR in dialog
4. Check other places where the translation is used:
- in dialog Tools > Options > Calc > Calculate: "_Limit decimals for general number format" see http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/search?&q=generalprec&project=translations,&sort=fullpath
- in help, see http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/search?&q=hd_id315634199&project=translations,&sort=fullpath
I did not notice that your commit was already merged. You should have added tdf#95385 at the beginning of your commit title to link your commit with this .
As mentioned in Comment 10, I do not agree with that commit. It is in contradiction with some l10n work. With French l10n, it is "Standard" which was chosen to translate "General" in SideBar. See http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/translations/source/fr/sc/uiconfig/scalc/ui.po#8090
(In reply to Laurent BP from comment #11)
> I did not notice that your commit was already merged. You should have added
> tdf#95385 at the beginning of your commit title to link your commit with
> this .
> As mentioned in Comment 10, I do not agree with that commit. It is in
> contradiction with some l10n work. With French l10n, it is "Standard" which
> was chosen to translate "General" in SideBar. See
This patch was only merged after exchanging mails with Sophie, if the l10n team as such does not agree, it can of course be changed.
PLEASE REVERT https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/23310
Modifying locale datas' number format is a wrong solution.
I guess it was a result of a misunderstanding.
Doing myself now.
Eike Rathke committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":
Revert "Text General inconsistent with cell formatting dlg", tdf#95385
It will be available in 5.2.0.
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Is this bug fixed?
If so, could you please close it as RESOLVED FIXED?
I've just realized your last commit reverted the previous commit. Sorry for the noise.
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Same inconsistency between formatting dialog and sidebar in LO 188.8.131.52.0+
Best regards. JBF
To recap and summarise:
The General (or Standard, or ...) seen in the sidebar is the (translated or not) keyword/code of the General number format, not a UI string or translation, if there is no specific number format applied (hence format code General). The problem is that the format code keyword is used as UI "category" name; that should be decoupled.