Bug 97599 - Format: Styles are not visible in MS WORD
Summary: Format: Styles are not visible in MS WORD
Status: RESOLVED INSUFFICIENTDATA
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.1.0.2 rc
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2016-02-05 16:09 UTC by Uwe Dippel
Modified: 2021-05-04 11:03 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Displays all white styles box in WORD (22.50 KB, application/msword)
2016-02-05 16:09 UTC, Uwe Dippel
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Description Uwe Dippel 2016-02-05 16:09:01 UTC
Created attachment 122411 [details]
Displays all white styles box in WORD

I have formatted a plurality of large documents, with styles, and saved it as .doc.
When opening in WORD, there are no styles visible: 'Change Styles' opens a box with all white content.

I extracted a few lines for a demo document, and it shows the same behaviour here. The demo file is attached. 

In case of no workaround, this is major up to blocker, because my nicely formatted documents - to undergo only minuscule format corrections before printing - seem to have lost all accessibility to the styles. The display is correct, so the styles must be somewhere, but not displayed.
Comment 1 Uwe Dippel 2016-02-10 10:22:30 UTC
I ought to add that this bug is *not* specific to 5.1.0.2.rc.
I observe it with all my other versions of LO as well. I only noted that version because it is the most recent one with which I tried.
Comment 2 Buovjaga 2016-02-12 09:22:26 UTC
Seems to be some glitch in your system

I can see all the styles just fine.

Are you on Windows?
What happens, if you disable Tools - Options - LibO - View - Use OpenGL for all rendering and restart LibO?

Also, old tricks recommended: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/UserProfile#Resolving_corruption_in_the_user_profile

Win 7 Pro 64-bit, Version: 5.1.0.3 (x64)
Build ID: 5e3e00a007d9b3b6efb6797a8b8e57b51ab1f737
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Windows 6.1; UI Render: default; 
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI)

Version: 5.2.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: a6f876d45bd4e41a7143594a6cb11b6893a0f620
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Windows 6.1; UI Render: default; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2016-02-11_00:07:38
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI)

Set to NEEDINFO.
Change back to UNCONFIRMED after you have provided more information.

Note: version field is for OLDEST version you have seen the bug in.
Comment 3 Uwe Dippel 2016-02-12 09:37:36 UTC
I am on Linux, x64, and I see all styles just fine. 
What I don't see, is any style when I open that file with WORD. 
Maybe that's me, but I can't read from your text that you tried to open with MS-WORD. I did, and I tried on a plurality of machines.
Comment 4 Buovjaga 2016-02-12 09:39:28 UTC
(In reply to Uwe Dippel from comment #3)
> I am on Linux, x64, and I see all styles just fine. 
> What I don't see, is any style when I open that file with WORD. 
> Maybe that's me, but I can't read from your text that you tried to open with
> MS-WORD. I did, and I tried on a plurality of machines.

Ok, I was being dyslexic there. Which version of MSO were you using?

I will test on MSO 2013 later.
Comment 5 Buovjaga 2016-02-12 09:40:03 UTC
Btw. we need your original .odt file to test confidently.
Comment 6 Uwe Dippel 2016-02-12 09:44:01 UTC
No problem!
I used a bunch a machines, MS Office 2007 and 2010, on W7.

I have no original .odt. Since I have to provide a file to be printable on MS WORD, I started saving as .doc in LO.
I can produce a export to .odt, but that'd be the same that you could produce yourself.  ;-)
Comment 7 Buovjaga 2016-02-12 14:34:54 UTC
It is weird. In MSO 2013, the Apply styles box is indeed blank. But in the styles dropdown in the ribbon, I do see green Heading 3 and 5. Yet, I don't see any German styles.

Note: it is definitely NOT exactly the same for me to save your .doc to .odt and back to .doc. The result is different when opened in MSO 2013.

Your .doc displays green and yellow squares in some cells in MSO 2013.
My .doc does not.

The style display result is the same for both.

Note that you should not be using an obsolete binary format such as .doc in this day and age. Bugs in binary formats are harder to fix than in .docx etc.

Win 8.1 32-bit
MSO 2013
Version: 5.2.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: a6f876d45bd4e41a7143594a6cb11b6893a0f620
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Windows 6.29; UI Render: GL; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2016-02-11_00:07:38
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI)
Comment 8 Uwe Dippel 2016-02-12 15:02:22 UTC
Thanks for the confirmation.

Your comments are well understood, I think nobody should use .doc nor .docx.
But I am forced to provide exactly that format: .doc. And therefore decided, to use my preferred LO and save as .doc, instead of having to sit in front of a lousy MS WORD (yes, to me it *is* lousy!).

It will give me headaches, if I have to redo my work in WORD.

Along with what you confirm, I see a problem in the export of the styles, since - as I noted - the display is pretty correct and uses the styles. But the export function doesn't seem to export totally correct, so that the styles are not visible. Were they only visible, in whatever box, I could apply them, done. So I can't. :-(
Comment 9 Buovjaga 2016-02-12 15:09:45 UTC
(In reply to Uwe Dippel from comment #8)
> Thanks for the confirmation.
> 
> Your comments are well understood, I think nobody should use .doc nor .docx.

Note that I meant that .docx is preferred over .doc. Docx bugs are more pleasant to investigate for the developers.

Yep, I realize for example some government documents are required in .doc format.
Comment 10 QA Administrators 2017-12-22 03:35:32 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2019-12-23 03:27:02 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 Timur 2021-05-04 11:03:04 UTC
I looked into this forgotten bug and:
1. this would be Filesave issue with some older LO;
2. I see "green and yellow squares" problem, but source ODT (not resaved from DOC) is required to be tested in new LO.
3. 'Change Styles' is design feature, not for paragraph styles, I see it in Word 2007 and styles/look can be changed, it's in Design in new MSO
4. with no source .ODT, it's Insufficient data, I don't know why it was confirmed.

So I cannot reproduce and I close this. 
If you can better explain the issue and attach sample ODT, please do and set Unconfirmed.