Bug 99839 - German localization of "page count": Seitenanzahl instead of Seitenzahl
Summary: German localization of "page count": Seitenanzahl instead of Seitenzahl
Status: VERIFIED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Localization (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.1.2.2 release
Hardware: All All
: medium minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL:
Whiteboard: target:5.2.7 target:5.3.2
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Reported: 2016-05-14 16:51 UTC by noprompt.0
Modified: 2019-04-13 04:31 UTC (History)
6 users (show)

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Screenshots of UI elements to insert page count (230.43 KB, image/png)
2017-03-05 23:24 UTC, Thomas Lendo
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Description noprompt.0 2016-05-14 16:51:45 UTC
LibreOffice Writer
Version: 5.1.2.2 (x64)

Dear developers of LibreOffice Writer, 

I use LibreOffice Version: 5.1.2.2 (x64) in the German edition. Generally I like LibreOffice very much, since years. 

In the current version I found a little bug in LibreOffice Writer. It is only one small problem with the translation from English into German.

Let me try to give a short overview.
It relates to the designation of the pages: 
first the indication of the current page number 
and 
secondly specifying the total pages of the document.

I could send You the details together with screen shots in a pdf file as attachment. This attachment is created with LibreOffice Writer. The implemented screen shots are created with MS Windows. But I am not sure whether there are hidden personal data contained. I personally did not write personal data in the pdf file. What do You think about the data security under these circumstances? Please let me know. 

Another way is possible. The problem is small and could be described in few sentences. 

Your answer is welcome. 

Best regards 
Berni
Comment 1 Julien Nabet 2016-05-14 17:10:25 UTC
You might be interested in this link:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Sanitizing_Files_Before_Submission
Comment 2 Buovjaga 2016-05-15 16:40:30 UTC
Set to NEEDINFO.
Change back to UNCONFIRMED after you have provided more information.
Comment 3 noprompt.0 2016-05-17 15:38:53 UTC
LibreOffice Writer Version: 5.1.2.2 (x64), German edition
Dear Developers of LibreOffice Writer,
 
Thank You for Your message. I prefere the following method to describe the current problem because this is much more faster!
 
In Writer I found a little bug. It is only one small problem with the tanslation from English into German. It relates to the designation of the pages: first the indication of the current page number and secondly specifying the total pages of the document. In the current German edition I found therefore in LibreOffice Writer two ways: a) One way is absolutely correct. b) The other way includes the small translation error, but the calculated result is also correct. This matter has motivated me to report the error in b). So it's just about to correct the little mistake in the translation of b).

For a better understanding of a) and b) I try to explain it in a structured way: 
I. We begin with a) where everything is correct. Click in LibreOffice Writer up in the second row on the icon #. You will see the associated pull down menu. Consider in the pull down menu line 1 "Seitennummer" (in English "page number") and line 2 "Seitenanzahl" (in English "page Count", total pages of the document). Note: There is "Seitenanzahl" and not "Seitenzahl"! Result: The two terms "Seitennummer" and "Seitenanzahl" are properly translated from English into German. Where "Seitennummer" the current page number is. It means the number of the page which the document is showing at the moment. And "Seitenanzahl" is specifying the total pages. It means the sum of the pages of the entire document. 

II. Now we consider the other possibility b) where the translation is incorrect in the second row.
Comment 4 noprompt.0 2016-05-17 17:10:24 UTC
I continue:

II. Now we consider the other possibility b) where the translation is incorrect in the second row. Click in LibreOffice Writer up in the first row on the term "Einfügen" (in the English version might be "Insertion" or "Insert" or perhaps another similar expression.) Consider there in line 2 "Feldbefehl" and click on it. You will see the next pull down menu. Consider there line 3 "Seitennummer" [that is correct!] and line 4 "Seitenzahl" [that is incorrect!]. Correct would be "Seitenanzahl"! Compare with the correct term in case I. Therefore look back at I. possibility a). 

Comments:
 
- Here is not a single number of a page meant ("Seitenzahl") but the sum of the pages is meant (in German "Seitenanzahl"). The problem is: In German colloquial language "Seitenzahl" is an indifferent expression. With this feeling for language "Seitenzahl" could have two different meanings: "Seitennummer" but also "Seitenanzahl". To avoid confusion we use in strictly mathematical manner "Seitenanzahl" and not "Seitenzahl". 

- For a better understanding and for correcting the mistake You and the other developers should have usable the German Version of Libreoffice Writer, Version: 5.1.2.2 (x64).  

- I hope that I could show You the problem clearly and convincingly. 

- It interests me: what is the English equivalent of the German "Seitenanzahl" and how is it named in the versions of LibreOffice? 

- I hope my writing together with LibreOffice Writer will help You to understand the problem and to solve it.

- I am also interested in an English version of LibreOffice. 

I hope that I can hereby contribute a little bit to the improvement of LibreOffice. I really enjoy working with LibreOffice. 

Your answer is welcome.
Good luck and lots of fun at work to All of the Developers Team!

Greetings from Berni
Comment 5 Thomas Lendo 2017-03-05 23:15:04 UTC
Berni, you can change the user interface language of LibreOffice with Extras > Optionen... > Spracheinstellungen > Sprachen > Benutzeroberfläche

As a suggestion: For easier reading, keep your bug report short. People that should conform or work on the bug don't want to read long text. :)

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I took a look and it seems that the wording was changed from "Seitenanzahl" to "Seitenzahl" since 5.1 because I coulnd't find the term "Seitenanzahl" (page count) in the UI - but in the help pages.

I agree with the bug reporter that the term "Seitenanzahl" would be better understandable or less ambiguous than "Seitenzahl" which could also be taken for "Seitennummer" (page number).

I will set the status to NEW and will change the summary to make it better understandable what this bug is for.
Comment 6 Thomas Lendo 2017-03-05 23:24:32 UTC
Created attachment 131663 [details]
Screenshots of UI elements to insert page count

Made with LibO version: 5.3.0.3
Build-ID: 1:5.3.0~rc3-0ubuntu1~trusty1.1
CPU-Threads: 2; BS-Version: Linux 3.13; UI-Render: Standard; VCL: gtk2; Layout-Engine: neu; 
Gebietsschema: de-AT (de_DE.UTF-8); Calc: group
Comment 7 2017-03-23 05:25:19 UTC
Thanks for reporting this misspelling.

I changed in Pootle for 5.2 and 5.3.

I will be corrected in 5.2.7 and 5.3.2 releses.
Comment 8 Julien Nabet 2017-03-23 06:12:57 UTC
(In reply to Kü from comment #7)
> Thanks for reporting this misspelling.
> 
> I changed in Pootle for 5.2 and 5.3.
> 
> I will be corrected in 5.2.7 and 5.3.2 releses.

Just to be sure, it'll be in Pootle for master (future 5.4.0) too?
Comment 9 2017-03-24 04:50:48 UTC
(In reply to Julien Nabet from comment #8)
> 
> Just to be sure, it'll be in Pootle for master (future 5.4.0) too?

Yes, in Pootle 5.3 is currently still master.