Bug 99855 - UI - Tools > Accessibility panel Support Assistive technology tools checkbox, does it have a function any longer?
Summary: UI - Tools > Accessibility panel Support Assistive technology tools checkbox,...
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
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4.2.0.4 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Windows (All)
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Keywords: accessibility, needsDevEval
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Blocks: a11y-Windows Writer-View-Jumps
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Reported: 2016-05-15 11:36 UTC by John
Modified: 2018-07-18 08:15 UTC (History)
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Description John 2016-05-15 11:36:09 UTC
See 73518 and 80332

Lo x86 5.1.3.2 on Win10 Pro x64
Dragon NaturallySpeaking is installed

I noticed, when scrolling in writer such that the cursor insertion point was not visible, that on stoppling scrolling, the displayed page would jump back to the location of the cursor. This annoying behaviour is something I associated in the past with "assistive" technology in Word.

This led me to try to turn off Tools > Options > LibreOffice > Accessibility > Support assistive technology tools only to find that clearing the check-box will not stick. On restarting LO, the box always remains checked. Trying to change the configuration as an administrator made no difference.

My reading of bug 80332 suggests to me that maybe LO has detected NaturallySpeaking and has forcibly turned on assistive technology as a result. I cannot test this as uninstalling NaturallySpeaking and then reinstalling might use up one of my activations.

The bug is the inability to turn off assistive technology but I would be interested to know if the scrolling behaviour noted above has anything to do with assistive technology.
Comment 1 V Stuart Foote 2016-05-16 15:24:33 UTC
With implementation of the final "native" IAccessible2 v1.3 based bridge for Windows (replacing Java JRE JAA bridge) the assistive tools technology support is enabled when an assistive technology is detected present and active. You can not disable it as it is built in.

With your Dragon Natuarlly speaking present and active--LibreOffice will toggle the Tool -> Options -> Accessibility "support assistive technology tools" active.

Otherwise, it can be unchecked disabled--but believe it no longer has any effect as it will enable by design when an assistive technology is in use.

However, that is not the cause of your issue with scrolling repositioning back to the last edit cursor position. That is simply that scrolling the canvas does not reposition the edit cursor. You can click into the document, or you can <PageDown> and <PageUp> to relocate the edit cursor into the currently in view portion of the canvas.

No need to uninstall Dragon speech recognition.
Comment 2 John 2016-05-17 13:14:10 UTC
Thanks for that. If the toggle for assistive technology does nothing, then I suggest it be removed. If it does do something for those without assistive technology, then I suggest it be greyed out for those with assistive technology.

Is there any information as to what is automatically turned on when an assistive technology is detected?
Comment 3 QA Administrators 2017-05-22 13:39:32 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 V Stuart Foote 2017-05-22 14:34:57 UTC
Still an issue...
Version: 5.3.3.2 (x64)
Build ID: 3d9a8b4b4e538a85e0782bd6c2d430bafe583448
CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Windows 6.19; UI Render: GL; Layout Engine: new; 
Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: group

@Jay, Adolfo? Michael M?
Comment 5 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-05-22 15:44:23 UTC
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1)
> With your Dragon Natuarlly speaking present and active--LibreOffice will
> toggle the Tool -> Options -> Accessibility "support assistive technology
> tools" active.

This checkbox only appears in Windows and yep if its unchecked and you start LO with NVDA, it will automatically check it, so not sure what the benefit of displaying it would be if it overrides user deactivation. @Maxim: Any thoughts?

> However, that is not the cause of your issue with scrolling repositioning
> back to the last edit cursor position. That is simply that scrolling the
> canvas does not reposition the edit cursor. You can click into the document,
> or you can <PageDown> and <PageUp> to relocate the edit cursor into the
> currently in view portion of the canvas.

Is this the same autosave issue from bug 41063, as i'm not sure what i should be testing for this bug.
Comment 6 QA Administrators 2018-07-18 02:39:02 UTC
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