Version: 5.3.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: c36489be617be3e8ca25612d29afb221bc7ae6c1 CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 3.16; UI Render: default; Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group Repro Steps: 1. Open writer; 2. Format -> Paragraph Observed: Notice that units are now "ch" by default instead of the units you generally use/expect with your system. Through 5.2 my default units are American Standard so I would see just 0.00" (" represents "inches"). I have no idea how how to equate "ch" to inches. Expected: Units would be based on locale and be consistent with other settings. I just checked MS Office 2010 and it bases indent on system units so I see inches - zero clue how I'd know if interop was right if I imported something from Word that I knew was 1.25" and converted to some X ch ALSO: This might be a separate bug but I was told to keep it in one Repro Steps: Same as above Observed: "Above the line" and "below the line" now measured in "lines" Expected: Either stick with metrics of system (again for me inches)_or move to "pt" which is what Word apparently does. These two issues make interop quite tedious
I can't reproduce Win10x64 Version: 5.3.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: ea9a90d83d92076d41abfd31a1fd3a5d84b6ba92 CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Windows 6.19; UI Render: GL; TinderBox: Win-x86@39, Branch:master, Time: 2016-08-26_06:19:43 Locale: es-ES (es_ES); Calc: CL The same as in 5.2 'cm' Maybe it's a erroneous string for inches. Is it right in Menu/Tools/Options/LibreOffice writer/General - Measurement units?
Reproduced and is only in master. Version: 5.3.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: f7513f0f53f2d074c08610a68fb787bb379c31d4 CPU Threads: 2; OS Version: Linux 3.19; UI Render: default; TinderBox: Linux-rpm_deb-x86_64@70-TDF, Branch:master, Time: 2016-09-02_23:58:05 Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); Calc: group
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Can not reproduce on Windows 10 Pro 64-bit en-US with Version: 5.3.0.0.alpha0+ Build ID: 696e83b663d4f3e00f23947613f9f3916a4dd14d CPU Threads: 8; OS Version: Windows 6.19; UI Render: GL; TinderBox: Win-x86@42, Branch:master, Time: 2016-09-03_10:21:32 Locale: en-US (en_US); Calc: CL Seems to be Linux only then... on Windows the units are my default inches--and as set in Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Writer -> General: Settings--"Measurement unit" == "Inch"
I've been checking in Windows, and it definitely occurs, and not only in 5.3 master build, but all back to 3.3.0. There's a checkbox right below "Measurement unit": "Enable char unit", that controls the behavior, if checked, you will see character/line units in Paragraph dialog.
Hm, there's no such checkbox in Linux. Adjacent checkbox is missing as well: "Use square page mode for text grid".
On linux i see both checkboxes in the options dialog in a profile i've been using for only 1 month and that i never modified the measurement unit in. With a blank profile, both checkboxes are gone.
(In reply to Aron Budea from comment #5) > There's a checkbox right below "Measurement unit": "Enable char unit", that > controls the behavior, if checked, you will see character/line units in > Paragraph dialog. (In reply to Aron Budea from comment #6) > Hm, there's no such checkbox in Linux. > Adjacent checkbox is missing as well: "Use square page mode for text grid". Both checkboxes depend of CJK features to be enabled (Language Settings > Languages > Asian). Also you need to close & reopen the options dialog for this setting to take effect.
The "Enable char unit" and "Use square page mode for text grid" only appear if the checkbox for Tools -> Options -> Language Settings -> Languages "Default language for the document" includes a check of the Asian list. Controlling attribute in source is IsAsianTypographyEnabled() If no Asian language support is enabled--the two check boxes are hidden, and do not assert. And if an Asian language is selected--the ch / line settings in Paragraph dialog will only assert if the "Enable char unit" checkbox is selected. Seems by default our user configuration includes selections enabling Asian and CTL--and that the checkbox for "Enable char unit" and "Use square page mode for text grid" are set active by default for builds after 3.4.6 Verified the checkbox setting, and the ch / line behavior of the Paragraph dialog "Indents and Spacing" on Windows builds 5.2.1, 5.1.5, 4.4.6, 4.3.6, 4.2.6, 4.1.6, 4.0.6, 3.6.5, 3.5.7 Through the 3.4.6 release the "Enable char unit" was not checked by default and the Paragraph dialog Indents and Spacing is not affected.
So, default is wrong--but simple work around uncheck the "Enable char unit" (Tools -> Options -> LibreOffice Writer -> General) when you are not composing in an Asian script.
Glad we were able to track down the issue, but curious why Joel enabled that checkbox. I enable it for QA work i'm doing. So the question comes down to whether it being on by default is what CJK users want by default.
I believe both character spacing and square page grid are preferred settings for composing with logograms (Hànzì, Kanji, Hanja) in CJK Asian scripts being used while editing. Otherwise, IIUC both character and grid should be disabled for text composition using phonograms/alphabets. On Windows at least, both are set on by default with a default user profile that includes Asian (CJK) and Complex Text Language (CTL) scripts, so that unexpectedly causes issue with spacings in the Paragraph dialog--even though a CJK script is not actually being used for the paragraph.
Yes it seems that if CJK and CTL are both enabled, "Enable char unit" is enabled and if only CJK is enabled, "Enable char unit" isnt enabled. So this seems to be the route of the bug.
I didn't enable anything and had never seen this behavior before a recent master build. This was seen with a fresh profile.
Minding the settings mentioned above, this occurs in 3.3 as well, adjusting earliest version and removing regression-related keywords.
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I do not see this issue on current master (and 7.4), could someone retest?
I do not know *what* the issue here is. (Although I believe I have my own definition of the issue here ;)) So, with Version: 7.4.3.1 (x64) / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 3793858a34d8fef5b92f8fee233f97766f05e281 CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19044; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: ru-RU (ru_RU); UI: en-US Calc: CL the following is reproducible: 1. Start with a clean profile; 2. Set up a non-Asian locale and UI (e.g., both en-US), and check the "Asian" checkbox under Options->Language Settings->Languages (no CTL, unlike comment 13 told); 3. Restart LibreOffice (just to make sure it all indeed has applied), start Writer, and look at Options->Writer->General. => [x] "Enable char unit" is checked. 4. Exit Options, and open paragraph properties on Idents and Spacing tab => ch and line are used as measurement units there. IMO, the problem is, that the char unit is enabled and used whenever Asian is enabled in language settings, regardless of the locale. I believe that even if the unit may be not shown when Asian is disabled there (maybe it makes sense?), it must not have any separate controls in options, and when added, it should be added as an option to respective places (like "Measurement unit" drop down under Options->Writer->General, or the units selectable when you right-click the rulers); it may be the default in some locales (just as inches are default when your locale is en-US); but otherwise, it must not be intrusive like it's now (it must not replace normal configured units in every locale).
Historically I think the idea was that only people in CJK locales would install a CJK langpack and so CJK features would only appear in that case and this sort of worked out ok. Seeing as we typically default to showing inches or cm based on SvtSysLocaleOptions::GetRealLanguageTag I think it makes sense to go that direction and show ch[ar] + inches if that locale is a CJK one and this toggle is also on.
https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/155948 for that idea
Caolán McNamara committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/a701a726dc3ccc174d1323a298c3550733773df9 tdf#101895 don't unconditionally default to ch[ar]/line It will be available in 24.2.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Hopefully that makes thing work out of the box for practically everyone.