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Bug 101923 - Option to set or unset list styles in the bullet & numbering dialog
Summary: Option to set or unset list styles in the bullet & numbering dialog
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
5.3.0.0.alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsDevEval, topicUI
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Blocks: Bullet-Numbering-Dialog
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Reported: 2016-09-06 05:01 UTC by Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
Modified: 2018-01-17 13:27 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Description Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-09-06 05:01:50 UTC
It would be useful to have a dialog option to set or unset the list style of list entries, as presently this feature is limited to the sidebar.
Comment 1 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-09-06 05:03:24 UTC
It should likely be added to the Options tab.
Comment 2 Regina Henschel 2016-09-06 19:12:24 UTC
Can you please give more details about what you want. It is not clear to me. The description has "unset the list style of list entries". What is "list entry"? Do you mean <text:list-item>? What is "unset the list style"? You can change a paragraph from being a list-item to be outside the list. Do you mean that? But that has nothing to do with the list-style itself and makes no sense for the Options Tab. And in the dialog in the context of a single paragraph, there is already the "Remove" button. Which dialog do you mean?
Comment 3 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-09-06 19:20:47 UTC
A "list entry" is the an entry in a bullet, numbering or outline list. "unset the list style" is removing the style association of a list entry, which presently you have no option to do in the list style tab of the styles and formatting deck.
Comment 4 Regina Henschel 2016-09-06 21:51:16 UTC
(In reply to Yousuf Philips (jay) from comment #3)
> A "list entry" is the an entry in a bullet, numbering or outline list.

"Outline" is ambiguous. I guess you do not mean chapter numbering, but the presets for list numbering. 

> "unset the list style" is removing the style association of a list entry,

Imagine a paragraph has got "Numbering 2" by double click on that item in the Style&Formatting dialog. And the parent paragraph style has "Numbering 1" set in its style definition in Tab "Outline & Numbering". Then "unset" can have two meanings:
(1) Remove the "Numbering 2" from the paragraph, so that it gets the inherited numbering
(2) Set "None" numbering, so that it does not inherit the numbering and shows no number at all.

> which presently you have no option to do in the list style tab of the styles
> and formatting deck.

How will you handle the anonymous list and numbering? Those are not included as style.

I can imagine one or more items to be in the list of the list style tab or additional buttons, which clear informations regarding numbering from the current paragraph; something similar to the "Default Style" of the character styles. But I doubt, that the Options tab of a style is the right place.
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2016-09-07 09:31:03 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #4)
> How will you handle the anonymous list and numbering? Those are not included
> as style.

We could introduce a standard/default (aka anonymous) style that would be applied when the style cleared. Alternatively we could also ignore the unset feature - users need to manually change properties in this case.
Comment 6 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2016-09-07 12:45:36 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #4)
> "Outline" is ambiguous. I guess you do not mean chapter numbering, but the
> presets for list numbering. 

Was going by the tab headings in the dialog. :D

> Imagine a paragraph has got "Numbering 2" by double click on that item in
> the Style&Formatting dialog. And the parent paragraph style has "Numbering
> 1" set in its style definition in Tab "Outline & Numbering". Then "unset"
> can have two meanings:
> (1) Remove the "Numbering 2" from the paragraph, so that it gets the
> inherited numbering
> (2) Set "None" numbering, so that it does not inherit the numbering and
> shows no number at all.

Didnt quite follow the issue of parent paragraph style you mentioned. Unset is intended to do the opposite of setting the list style in the sidebar.

So thanks to looking at the 'Outline & Numbering' tab of the paragraph dialog, the intent of this enhancement is simply to have the 'Numbering Style' combobox and 'Edit Style' button be added to the bullets & numbering dialog.
Comment 7 Heiko Tietze 2016-09-13 12:43:52 UTC
Sometimes I face the problem that numbers in lists hinders my workflow but are still relevant. For instance, I want to resort the list but keep the item labeled.

2) Second item
3) Third item
1) First item

What I usually do is to copy/paste everything to an external text editor in order to loose automatic numbering. Unset the list style could make this workflow comfortable.
Comment 8 Regina Henschel 2017-04-05 20:09:45 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7)
> Sometimes I face the problem that numbers in lists hinders my workflow but
> are still relevant. For instance, I want to resort the list but keep the
> item labeled.
> 
> 2) Second item
> 3) Third item
> 1) First item
> 
> What I usually do is to copy/paste everything to an external text editor in
> order to loose automatic numbering. Unset the list style could make this
> workflow comfortable.

Cut the list from after the paragraph sign of the previous paragraph to the end of the list. Insert it as "unformatted text". That will turn the numbering fields into simple characters.

Yousuf: Does Heikos use case describes what you want?
Comment 9 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2017-04-06 15:45:06 UTC
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #8)
> Yousuf: Does Heikos use case describes what you want?

Regina: Not it doesnt. What i'm suggesting is to easily see and apply a list style to a list which is created with direct formatting.

Scenario: I've created a bullet list using the direct formatting bullet button in the formatting toolbar and want to change the list to use one of the already available list styles.

Currently a user has the option of applying a list style from the styles and formatting sidebar, but no means of doing so from the bullet & numbering dialog, which this enhancement request intends to fix.
Comment 10 Thomas Lendo 2018-01-17 13:27:20 UTC
The missing of the possibility to assign a style to content is true at many places in LibO. Direct formatting will be offered everywhere, styles alternative aren't offered--neither additionally to DF at the same place nor instead of DF. To enforce or enable users to use styles instead of DF without changing the workflow, styles should be offered too.

This is also true in the Bullets and Numbering dialog. I support the idea of enhancing this dialog so that a user can also use list styles, but I would go a step further and suggest to exchange DF bullets and numbering with bullet styles and numbering styles completely.

Is there a negative impact for users/workflows after doing that? This would "connect" the DF list world with the list styles world without creating new dialogs or workflows and without cluttering existing dialogs.