Bug 119959 - Master Document Internal Navigation - Open Master at Place
Summary: Master Document Internal Navigation - Open Master at Place
Status: RESOLVED WORKSFORME
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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unspecified
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Navigator Writer-Master-Doc
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Reported: 2018-09-18 14:32 UTC by brodders
Modified: 2018-10-07 09:25 UTC (History)
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Description brodders 2018-09-18 14:32:36 UTC
Description:
LO Writer has a Navigator to move around inside large documents. The Navigation plane re-purposed in Master documents to allow links to open a sub-document, which are included in the Master. The Master then gets, usually, bigger.

However for Master documents (the whole compiled text) have now lost their method to jump rapidly to a section as per the one-document Navigator. This is frustrating, as the included section is shown in the Navigator but (from within the Master) unaccessable directly.

It is very useful to view, in the Master, the included text (inc. page and figure renumbering etc.) i.e for a Navigator function which does not open the included document, rather just goes there in the Master.

Feature suggestion: Use a second key (suggest: Ctrl) which when depressed modifies Navigator "open / go to this document" to: "move present view to where this document is included in the Master".


Actual Results:
display target text in the Master only, without opening the included document or changing focus

Expected Results:
 


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



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Comment 1 Drew Jensen 2018-09-18 15:15:29 UTC
IMO it would be a nice feature to have a way to move like that inside the master document view vs opening a separate writer file for the linked parts.

I think it is a good candidate for a UX question.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2018-09-19 07:52:16 UTC
Brodders, could you please attach an example document?
Comment 3 Drew Jensen 2018-09-19 09:17:01 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Brodders, could you please attach an example document?

The LibreOffice Guides are good examples. You can find one all setup (w/ linked chapter files) as a Master Document on the TDF nextcloud server. Once logged onto the go to
shared->ODFAuthors->English->Getting Started Guide

Take the entire directory as a zip file.
Comment 4 Drew Jensen 2018-09-19 09:18:09 UTC
(In reply to Drew Jensen from comment #3)
> (In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> > Brodders, could you please attach an example document?
> 
> shared->ODFAuthors->English->Getting Started Guide

sorry - the full location is
shared->ODFAuthors->English->Getting Started Guide->6.0->Published
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2018-09-27 14:04:01 UTC
Didn't find the master document (or any other ODFAuthors stuff) on our NC instance but got the example from https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-6.0/gs6000-masterdocument/view

What I see is that you can toggle the master view on or off. If it the master view is off you get all headings in the Navigator including access per double-click. Has this changed recently and is this not sufficient?
Comment 6 Drew Jensen 2018-09-27 15:27:30 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #5)
> Didn't find the master document (or any other ODFAuthors stuff) on our NC
> instance but got the example from
> https://www.odfauthors.org/libreoffice/english/getting-started/published-lo-
> 6.0/gs6000-masterdocument/view
> 
> What I see is that you can toggle the master view on or off. If it the
> master view is off you get all headings in the Navigator including access
> per double-click. Has this changed recently and is this not sufficient?

First: I happened to have snap copy that whole directory with all the files and just pushed that zip up to the cloud - you get the whole bunch here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GvQ40kXG2Z2B95ORjHx4TRZHsL8JVOnc/view?usp=sharing

Thin to keep in mind here is that the Master document is often misused by people copying contents of the different parts in to the physical Master document. This particular set of files however uses the feather to link the sub documents into the Master Document.

so this issue is about what is displayed when you double click on a sub document (which is now a sub heading in the Master Document). Currently what happens is that physical sub-document is opened in the window frame. What is being considered here is to add the ability to instead jump to that section inside the view presented by Master Document, as if you had scrolled down to that section, instead of replacing the contents of the window frame with the contents of the physical sub-document.
Comment 7 Thomas Lendo 2018-09-27 18:14:14 UTC
(In reply to Drew Jensen from comment #6)
> so this issue is about what is displayed when you double click on a sub
> document (which is now a sub heading in the Master Document). Currently what
> happens is that physical sub-document is opened in the window frame. What is
> being considered here is to add the ability to instead jump to that section
> inside the view presented by Master Document, as if you had scrolled down to
> that section, instead of replacing the contents of the window frame with the
> contents of the physical sub-document.
To be able to go to a dedicated place at the beginning of a sub-document in the master document, I insert text between the sub-document. I leave the text empty. But it allows me in the Navigator to double click at a text item before a sub-document. Then the canvas jumps to that paragraph between 2 sub-documents.

I like to be able to open a sub-document as editable normal document by double click on it in the Navigator.
Comment 8 brodders 2018-09-27 18:25:02 UTC
gentlefolk,

as I opened this feature request - "yes" to the above!

Toggling the master view works for me (as does adding text between sub-documents). Did not know this was possible...

given that, perhaps this request is closed?

thank you for your time.

:)
brodders