Description: (I filed this on "Ask LibreOffice", they sent me here. This is somewhere between a bug and a feature fix/request. I use Navigator for books and other long documents I am working on. It would be great help if the Navigator settings were document-specific. 1) Open/Closed Constancy. If I open Navigator for a file in Writer, every document I open thereafter - Calc, Slide Show, whatever - has Navigator open, and I have to stop and close it to open up window space, to see what I'm doing. And vice versa, for documents where I want it open, it will default to the previous document's settings. It would be great if my open/closed preferences were saved with each document. And for a new, empty document, I can't see that there is any reason for Navigator to be open. 2) Drop-Down Constancy. Much more problematic, when I close a document where I was using Navigator, when I reopen it, all of my outline is collapsed back to the minimal. I have to go through the outline opening it back up, in order to be able to see my headings, and navigate around the document. That may sound trivial, but I typically work on several long documents at once. Often, I simply want to add a single insight or an article citation and then close the document. But on something as long as a book, I may need to open 20 or more chapter headings, and many more subheadings and even sub-subeadings in order to find my place, and to figure out where I want the information to go. It is particularly frustrating. In effect, I would like Navigator to be better at helping me navigate. Thanks. Steps to Reproduce: 1. Open a document. 2. Open or close Navigator. 3. Open another document. Actual Results: I was irritated. Navigator settings are global, instead of document-specific. Expected Results: I was not irritated. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: See the description above.
@Jim, what do you think of this enhancement ?
A report should deal with only a single topic, but I will comment. (In reply to Joe Abraham from comment #0) > 1) Open/Closed Constancy. > > If I open Navigator for a file in Writer, every document I open thereafter - > Calc, Slide Show, whatever - has Navigator open, and I have to stop and > close it to open up window space, to see what I'm doing. And vice versa, for > documents where I want it open, it will default to the previous document's > settings. It would be great if my open/closed preferences were saved with > each document. > > And for a new, empty document, I can't see that there is any reason for > Navigator to be open. This is somewhat related: bug 114506 > > 2) Drop-Down Constancy. > > Much more problematic, when I close a document where I was using Navigator, > when I reopen it, all of my outline is collapsed back to the minimal. I have > to go through the outline opening it back up, in order to be able to see my > headings, and navigate around the document. That may sound trivial, but I > typically work on several long documents at once. Often, I simply want to > add a single insight or an article citation and then close the document. But > on something as long as a book, I may need to open 20 or more chapter > headings, and many more subheadings and even sub-subeadings in order to find > my place, and to figure out where I want the information to go. It is > particularly frustrating. Would implementing the request of bug 58192 solve this for you? Of course we can cram more and more state data into documents, but I think we should draw the line somewhere.
Hello Joe Abraham, Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ? I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version.
Created attachment 176684 [details] Navigator Closes sections after closing file: before & after
Hi Xisco, I am running Ubuntu 21.10, & LibreOffice 7.2.2.2; I tried upgrading LibreOffice with Synaptic, but I still have the same version. In the first attached file, I created a 'book' with two chapters, both are open. I close the file, reopen it, only one chapter is open. As I noted originally, when I am working on a book with 20 chapters, with multiple sections, and occasionally sub-sections, and I close the file, when I reopen most/all of the chapters are closed. Getting it back into working condition with everything open takes a while, costs me time.
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #2) > > 2) Drop-Down Constancy. > > > > Much more problematic, when I close a document where I was using Navigator, > > when I reopen it, all of my outline is collapsed back to the minimal. I have > > to go through the outline opening it back up, in order to be able to see my > > headings, and navigate around the document. That may sound trivial, but I > > typically work on several long documents at once. Often, I simply want to > > add a single insight or an article citation and then close the document. But > > on something as long as a book, I may need to open 20 or more chapter > > headings, and many more subheadings and even sub-subeadings in order to find > > my place, and to figure out where I want the information to go. It is > > particularly frustrating. > > Would implementing the request of bug 58192 solve this for you? > > Of course we can cram more and more state data into documents, but I think > we should draw the line somewhere. Joe: I'm still waiting for your reply on this. If you agree, we could close your report as a duplicate of bug 58192
Setting to "needinfo" for Buovjaga's question.
Dear Joe Abraham, This bug has been in NEEDINFO status with no change for at least 6 months. Please provide the requested information as soon as possible and mark the bug as UNCONFIRMED. Due to regular bug tracker maintenance, if the bug is still in NEEDINFO status with no change in 30 days the QA team will close the bug as INSUFFICIENTDATA due to lack of needed information. For more information about our NEEDINFO policy please read the wiki located here: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/Bugzilla/Fields/Status/NEEDINFO If you have already provided the requested information, please mark the bug as UNCONFIRMED so that the QA team knows that the bug is ready to be confirmed. Thank you for helping us make LibreOffice even better for everyone! Warm Regards, QA Team MassPing-NeedInfo-Ping
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #2) > A report should deal with only a single topic, but I will comment. > > (In reply to Joe Abraham from comment #0) > > 1) Open/Closed Constancy. > > > > If I open Navigator for a file in Writer, every document I open thereafter - > > Calc, Slide Show, whatever - has Navigator open, and I have to stop and > > close it to open up window space, to see what I'm doing. And vice versa, for > > documents where I want it open, it will default to the previous document's > > settings. It would be great if my open/closed preferences were saved with > > each document. > > > > And for a new, empty document, I can't see that there is any reason for > > Navigator to be open. > > This is somewhat related: bug 114506 > > > > > 2) Drop-Down Constancy. > > > > Much more problematic, when I close a document where I was using Navigator, > > when I reopen it, all of my outline is collapsed back to the minimal. I have > > to go through the outline opening it back up, in order to be able to see my > > headings, and navigate around the document. That may sound trivial, but I > > typically work on several long documents at once. Often, I simply want to > > add a single insight or an article citation and then close the document. But > > on something as long as a book, I may need to open 20 or more chapter > > headings, and many more subheadings and even sub-subeadings in order to find > > my place, and to figure out where I want the information to go. It is > > particularly frustrating. > > Would implementing the request of bug 58192 solve this for you? > > Of course we can cram more and more state data into documents, but I think > we should draw the line somewhere. That enhancement would seem to work.
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #3) > Hello Joe Abraham, > Could you please try to reproduce it with the latest version of LibreOffice > from https://www.libreoffice.org/download/libreoffice-fresh/ ? > I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to > 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the latest version. I am using 7.3.7.2 the problem is unchanged.
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #6) > (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #2) > > > 2) Drop-Down Constancy. > > > > > > Much more problematic, when I close a document where I was using Navigator, > > > when I reopen it, all of my outline is collapsed back to the minimal. I have > > > to go through the outline opening it back up, in order to be able to see my > > > headings, and navigate around the document. That may sound trivial, but I > > > typically work on several long documents at once. Often, I simply want to > > > add a single insight or an article citation and then close the document. But > > > on something as long as a book, I may need to open 20 or more chapter > > > headings, and many more subheadings and even sub-subeadings in order to find > > > my place, and to figure out where I want the information to go. It is > > > particularly frustrating. > > > > Would implementing the request of bug 58192 solve this for you? > > > > Of course we can cram more and more state data into documents, but I think > > we should draw the line somewhere. > > Joe: I'm still waiting for your reply on this. If you agree, we could close > your report as a duplicate of bug 58192 Sorry for the delay, answered above, but yes.
*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 58192 ***