Bug 128224 - Uninstall local help
Summary: Uninstall local help
Status: RESOLVED NOTOURBUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
Version:
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unspecified
Hardware: All Linux (All)
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Help Installer-Linux
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Reported: 2019-10-18 07:06 UTC by Heiko Tietze
Modified: 2023-05-16 06:57 UTC (History)
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Description Heiko Tietze 2019-10-18 07:06:37 UTC
Installing the offline help is working, more or less smoothly if you know how to do [1]. But to my knowledge there is no way to get rid of the files except to delete manually (sudo rm -r <path>/libreoffce/help/), for example to always access the latest content, to save disc space, to change the language, etc. There are some reasons.

My proposal is to put help content in extensions and install it via extension manager into the user space. That makes both installation and deletion easy.

[1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Documentation/Install/Linux#Installing_a_Help_Pack
Comment 1 V Stuart Foote 2019-10-18 14:59:48 UTC
Trivial removal with current Windows packaging. Linux only?
Comment 2 Adolfo Jayme Barrientos 2019-10-22 13:24:06 UTC
What have I been missing all this time? In Debian/Ubuntu I’ve always been able to run “apt remove libreoffice-help-*”.

Isn’t this distro-related (i.e., NOTOURBUG) anyway?

And given that distros have a package manager already, how exactly is it helpful to create further barriers by moving help into extensions? (the Extension Manager is like a mini-package manager itself, but worse, with neither automation features nor system integration.)
Comment 3 Xisco Faulí 2019-11-15 12:04:09 UTC
(In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #2)
> What have I been missing all this time? In Debian/Ubuntu I’ve always been
> able to run “apt remove libreoffice-help-*”.
> 
> Isn’t this distro-related (i.e., NOTOURBUG) anyway?
> 
> And given that distros have a package manager already, how exactly is it
> helpful to create further barriers by moving help into extensions? (the
> Extension Manager is like a mini-package manager itself, but worse, with
> neither automation features nor system integration.)

@Heiko, please reply to Adolfo...
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2019-11-15 12:18:47 UTC
(In reply to Adolfo Jayme from comment #2)
> Isn’t this distro-related (i.e., NOTOURBUG) anyway?

Arch Linux has no help packages, no idea how other handle this and we should first think about Windows users. Another point is that TDF provides the download of help files at https://www.libreoffice.org/download/download/. So IMHO no NAB.
Comment 5 Xisco Faulí 2019-11-19 11:20:07 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #0)
> My proposal is to put help content in extensions and install it via
> extension manager into the user space. That makes both installation and
> deletion easy.

@Olivier, as the documentation expert here, what's your opinion on this ?
Comment 6 Olivier Hallot 2023-05-13 14:36:34 UTC
Uh... sorry for the late response

IIRC that was once considered but ESC vetoed and invested in the makefiles for building and packaging Help. The reason forwarded was that Help was part of the product and not an (external/independent) extension. 

So it's an distro issue, IMHO.
Comment 7 V Stuart Foote 2023-05-13 18:39:00 UTC
Yes, and Windows users are already well supported via msiexec.exe based package handling.

IMHO => WF or NOB for builds sans package management.
Comment 8 Heiko Tietze 2023-05-15 07:06:09 UTC
Andreas, I'm using the fresh package on Arch Linux. And AFAICS there is no extra *help that could be deleted. What do you think?

https://archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/libreoffice-fresh/
Comment 9 Andreas Radke 2023-05-15 20:10:16 UTC
The Arch Linux main libreoffice package provides en-US langpack + help files. All -i18n packages contain the specific language files + help files. Arch doesn't split out help packages any further. But that's a downstream distribution decision.
Comment 10 Heiko Tietze 2023-05-16 06:57:53 UTC
Thanks for the insights. It's annoying to not being able to switch to the online help but NOB for LibreOffice. Thanks for your packaging effort!