Description: Help->About Libre Office shows version info, etc. As of 7.1 this is has been made facier, with hyperlinks to release notes, etc. However, in the process copying to the clipboard (e.g. with Ctrl-C) has been disabled. This prevents copying the version info, e.g. to put into a bug report. At several points the bug system asks users to copy "the information in Help->About Libre Office" into a bug report, but now this is impossible. To summarize: The "About" box text should be copyable Steps to Reproduce: 1. Help->About Libre Office 2. Try to copy information there into another app Actual Results: You can't (can't select text, so can't copy it) Expected Results: . Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: .
It's replaced by a copy about info button; next to Version information.. They old - 'initial' copy button was more obvious, but for some reason replaced but a little button without label (not sure what the argument was..).. Lets bring it up again, just because it's a lovely topic ;-). And Heiko can't get enough of it. The about window, the most precious part of LibreOffice.
Ok, that wan't obvious to me. Please do add an idiot-proof label such as "Copy Version to Clipboard". I tried it, and it suffers from the "Clipboard persistence bug" where you have to paste while LO is still running. If you exit LO first, there is nothing actually in the clipboard to paste. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClipboardPersistence for more about this.
For more discussion, see https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/95791. Even more info in bug 133662, which went a bit out of scope ;-) Personally I would put a button with text just next to the close button, like the previous "Copy Version Info". For me the little icon button looks out of place and isn't obvious (also for the reporter). And it would be nice, if someone could restore the Ctrl+C functionality, but I don't consider this essential with the button.
Slightly hijacking this bug: 7.0b2 shows the copy button, but there is no description. Not sure if that should be a separate bug, but that tiny unlabeled button is certainly not the intended way it should be displayed. (see screenshot) So when that is fixed, that would solve this bug here? The lost clipboard problem does not exist on macOS, thus it is a problem in the linux distribution being used and should be solved on an OS level and would be notourbug.
Created attachment 162584 [details] about > copy button not labeled
(In reply to Telesto from comment #1) > And Heiko can't get enough of it. \o/ (In reply to Jan-Marek Glogowski from comment #3) > And it would be nice, if someone could restore the Ctrl+C functionality, but > I don't consider this essential with the button. That's the only option I would implement. The discussion where to place the copy button was long and fruitless. Way too much bike-shedding. I suggest to bring this request into bug 133728, which I took as shortcut enhancement ticket though it's about macOS.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #6) > (In reply to Telesto from comment #1) > > And Heiko can't get enough of it. > > \o/ > > (In reply to Jan-Marek Glogowski from comment #3) > > And it would be nice, if someone could restore the Ctrl+C functionality, but > > I don't consider this essential with the button. > > That's the only option I would implement. The discussion where to place the > copy button was long and fruitless. Way too much bike-shedding. > > I suggest to bring this request into bug 133728, which I took as shortcut > enhancement ticket though it's about macOS. The discussion where to place the copy button was long and fruitless. -> Pointer please.. ; the smaller one with icon was more a surprise. Or did you attempt to dodge 'translation' discussion of bug 133662 this way (assume so) The version information shouldn't be translated at all.. would make the whole stupid issue go away.. The translation department is slightly obsessive in their opinion, IMHO. Or I'm underestimating the the user who complain few lines of technical terms being english as bad translation. While most translations produce some weird - awful - result (hmm, maybe I should start reporting bugs about awful 'about' window translations ;-). Surprising the didn't propose the macro language being localised too :-) So my preference.. don't translate those lines, period. Reintroduce the copy button with text label. Copy version info. The translation team should back off. As the never produced some meaningful translation anyhow; and the about is often not translated at all. Next best alternative: Copy version info. No tooltip nothing, about what the tooltip copies.. most user don't need it. So won't notice.. In the current setup nobody notice the button at all.. And does save some time when reporting a lot.. It's only an about dialog. Not a major component of the application, where you work with all day. Except if you report bugs (or those instances where you not aware which version you're running). I don't think people object against the button.. It didn't do what it supposed to do/ said to be doing (English only). Which ends up again with the translation team. Yes, I started the don't translate request. As Roman started to post a Russian about screen. Which is unreadable.. especially skia/vulkan/raster. Never thought we get such an endless fuzz about it :-( If people start selecting an copying a translated about screen again, we are back to where we started. Not the desired outcome ;-) As said the button is an improvement for regular reporters.
(In reply to Telesto from comment #7) > ... attempt to dodge 'translation' discussion of bug 133662 this way Yes, localization of "Copy version info" becomes too large on the button (which was not that widely accepted anyway). And therefore all terms longer than Copy will fail. We also discussed to have a stock copy button where only the is. No objection, but in this case we have to move the button back to right. Adding more people with stakes.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #8) > (In reply to Telesto from comment #7) > > ... attempt to dodge 'translation' discussion of bug 133662 this way > > Yes, localization of "Copy version info" becomes too large on the button > (which was not that widely accepted anyway). > > > And therefore all terms longer than Copy will fail. We also discussed to > have a stock copy button where only the is. No objection, but in this case > we have to move the button back to right. Adding more people with stakes. I am fine with the current situation when it comes to the button. I changed what you see in attachment 162584 [details] so the button is next to the Version Information text. - the button has a tooltip telling what it does - screenreader users can focus in it and the reader explains what it does (just tested) Ctrl-C is a nice to have, if someone wants to implement.
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #9) > I am fine with the current situation when it comes to the button. I changed > what you see in attachment 162584 [details] so the button is next to the > Version Information text. > > - the button has a tooltip telling what it does Hmm we starting to deviation from the initial topic. Not saying that the current situation isn't workable for everyone who knows. This is for the people unaware. There is an issue of being noticed.. as comment 0 illustrates. And the tooltip isn't enough to resolve that.. It's already present Not sure if a different position solve that.. 1) Moving back to right, yes.. Adding more people with stakes -> what are the assumed stakes; i'm not seeing the issue nor did I hear them complain, yet.. About the text label: A) Copy -> With objection of missing what precisely. But that's the purpose right, creating some mystery/attention :-). And other part can be sovled with the tooltip; B) Copy about -> Complain not the whole about being copied? C) Copy about info -> Too long (no go. translation.. ) Would go for A. But needs adding some people from bug 133662 to check up first. Else we end up re-opening another can of worms (bug 133662) about the label
(In reply to Telesto from comment #10) > About the text label: > A) Copy -> With objection of missing what precisely. But that's the purpose > right, creating some mystery/attention :-). And other part can be sovled > with the tooltip; > B) Copy about -> Complain not the whole about being copied? > C) Copy about info -> Too long (no go. translation.. ) > > Would go for A. But needs adding some people from bug 133662 to check up > first. Else we end up re-opening another can of worms (bug 133662) about the > label Would go with none of them as there has been quite enough churn here already. I, too, would have preferred text, but this is getting way out of hand.
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #11) > (In reply to Telesto from comment #10) > > About the text label: > > A) Copy -> With objection of missing what precisely. But that's the purpose > > right, creating some mystery/attention :-). And other part can be sovled > > with the tooltip; > > B) Copy about -> Complain not the whole about being copied? > > C) Copy about info -> Too long (no go. translation.. ) > > > > Would go for A. But needs adding some people from bug 133662 to check up > > first. Else we end up re-opening another can of worms (bug 133662) about the > > label > > Would go with none of them as there has been quite enough churn here > already. I, too, would have preferred text, but this is getting way out of > hand. It only shows interest that people care about the about dialog :-). Not seeing this going really 'out of hand'. It only needs everybody being in the loop, without being surprised by something I ask for 'English' about text. Got a button copy, which is actually even better. Except the copy about being still partly translated.. I complained about that.. but not solvable without (major) effort. Next step was the issue the label (too long) and the tooltip showing about in English, however still being partly translated (not doing what described to do).
The issue with the empty button will be fixed in the next build. It’s already solved by https://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?h=libreoffice-7-0&id=34e1eb170e394b464b9686cfbc0a56fb07d85893 , which I pushed after the beta was cut. Mala mía :(
Created attachment 162729 [details] 7.0.0.1RC1 copy button fixed
fixed. see attached screenshot. Version: 7.0.0.1 Build ID: 04ba7e3f1e51af6c5d653e543a620e36719083fd CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.15.5; UI render: default; VCL: osx Locale: de-DE (de_DE.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded