Bug 136080 - Add functionality to create high Drop Caps
Summary: Add functionality to create high Drop Caps
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 70180
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.0.0.3 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Paragraph-Drop-Caps
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Reported: 2020-08-24 15:08 UTC by Clarc
Modified: 2020-09-03 20:02 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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Example for "High Drop Caps" (24.05 KB, image/png)
2020-08-24 15:08 UTC, Clarc
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Description Clarc 2020-08-24 15:08:07 UTC
Description:
The attached screenshot demonstrates the Idea. It's not uncommon to use this kind of Drop Caps, so it's important to add this functionality to LO.

Actual Results:
 

Expected Results:
 


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No



Additional Info:
Comment 1 Clarc 2020-08-24 15:08:51 UTC
Created attachment 164641 [details]
Example for "High Drop Caps"
Comment 2 Dieter 2020-08-24 15:29:08 UTC
(In reply to Clarc from comment #0)
> Description:
> The attached screenshot demonstrates the Idea. It's not uncommon to use this
> kind of Drop Caps, so it's important to add this functionality to LO.

What's the difference between high Drop Caps and just increase size of the first character?
Comment 3 Clarc 2020-08-24 16:23:15 UTC
(In reply to Dieter from comment #2)
> What's the difference between high Drop Caps and just increase size of the
> first character?

Thank you for the question!

1. (As far as I know,) automating making the fist letter bigger isn't possible. Automating Drop Caps, on the other hand, is easy.
For example, you can change your paragraph styles to always follow the order Heading 1 -> Drop Caps Paragraph -> Text Body.

2. If Quotation-Mark-compatibility gets added for Drop Caps (see https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=136049), Drop Caps will be needed to properly style quotation marks that are placed before the big letter.
For example, I couldn't find a way to add am quotation mark (") in front (at the top left) of the Big letter without making it enormous as well.

3. Manually making the first Letter big might mess up line-spacing. (As can be seen in the  [Example for "High Drop Caps"]-picture). This would mean, the writer needs to - again, manually - try to even out all the line-spacings.

4. Adding such a functionality to the Drop Caps-tab should be the most intuitive place for such an functionality.

Those were a couple of reasons why this might be different and necessary.
Comment 4 Clarc 2020-08-24 16:42:33 UTC
The easiest (and probably most useful) implementation could be to add another Option below "Lines" and renaming the Lines-option:

        Height in Lines  [ 3  |-|+]
   Protrusion into Text  [ 2  |-|+]

The above mentioned example would then produce the middle text in the following picture: https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/f61ec9299e5d39face7dd612074000df41b3e064/2372b/assets/images/blog/2017/initial-letter/sunken-raised-drop-caps-2240.jpg

        Height in Lines  [ 3  |-|+]
   Protrusion into Text  [ 3  |-|+]

Would result in the right text in the picture and

        Height in Lines  [ 3  |-|+]
   Protrusion into Text  [ 1  |-|+]

would be the left text.
By default, Protrusion could always be set to be equal to [Height in Lines], if we want to avoid forcing users to set additional parameters.
Comment 5 Clarc 2020-08-24 18:52:08 UTC
> https://d33wubrfki0l68.cloudfront.net/f61ec9299e5d39face7dd612074000df41b3e064/2372b/assets/images/blog/2017/initial-letter/sunken-raised-drop-caps-2240.jpg

5. It might be impossible to achieve the middle text by simply changing the first character's size.
Comment 6 Dieter 2020-08-25 17:00:07 UTC
(In reply to Clarc from comment #5)
> 5. It might be impossible to achieve the middle text by simply changing the
> first character's size.

You're right. So let's ask design-team
Comment 7 V Stuart Foote 2020-09-03 20:02:01 UTC

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 70180 ***