Description: Manual break dialog says (next) page style set to none. Appears to incorrect, the page layout is always based on a page style Steps to Reproduce: 1. open Writer 2. Insert -> More Breaks -> Manual break Actual Results: Manual break dialog says (next) page style set to none. Appears to incorrect, the page layout is always based on a page style Expected Results: Default page style/ or (probably more correct) inherited. Also topics like font hierarchy in paragraph styles and such.. where child settings which not differ from parent style shows up as inherited. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: No Additional Info: Version: 7.2.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: 32fdb8eb3506bc8dcf013cc713fe8e5debceb940 CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 6.3 Build 9600; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); UI: en-US Calc: CL
Yes, {None] is not clear. In content it means "continue using current page style". So perhaps [current] would be better? Or make a choice * continue with current page style * start with other page style from here. Select: and show drop-down list only in the second case.
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #1) > Or make a choice > * continue with current page style > * start with other page style from here. Select: > and show drop-down list only in the second case. From communication perspective I opt for the above: make choice here. Thing is there is always a 'page style'. The question is if you explicitly set one. This an be they same as the previous paragraph.. The difference occur only when changing the page style for a area limited by page breaks.. [The other topic the page break line showing if explicit page style is set or 'inheriting' the previous one.. There bug reporting with a proposal in that direction somewhere]. As part the long list of my complains (in)valid complains regarding accessibility/work-ability with page styles. @Offtopic However i'm also the opinion of 'page breaks' not being a part of paragraph style by definition. I surely get they idea of connecting page break to paragraph style, if this done explicitly on purpose. However as the only way, I'm still not really convinced.. I never had the impression of page breaks being attached to paragraphs in Word with all the quirks it brings.. [But this touches ideology, and maybe even file format specifications] and rather off-topic here
Somewhat bikeshedding here as I haven't seen any user complaining about the missing [None] pages style. But anyway, either go with radio buttons as Regina suggests (the text is a bit verbose and better suited for a tooltip) or a checkbox similar to the page number below. ( ) Line break ( ) Column break (o) Page break [x] New style [ v] [ ] Change page number [ +-]
*** Bug 138641 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
(In reply to Regina Henschel from comment #1) > Yes, {None] is not clear. In content it means "continue using current page > style". > > So perhaps [current] would be better? > > Or make a choice > * continue with current page style > * start with other page style from here. Select: > and show drop-down list only in the second case. Note that "None" is technically correct (meaning "no style is explicitly set in the break setting"), while "current" is wrong (the actually used page style for the next page is not necessarily the same as on the current page, since current page style's "Next style" may affect this). I don't have a proposal which word would fit, but please do not change a correct term to incorrect (even if correct is not universally understood). Especially since this request does not solve any real problem (there are no complaints that a user was unable to figure this, or even spent any sizable time on figuring it).
Additionally, having "current" has its own potential to confuse, and it would have much greater real-life impact: it is not obvious that using "current" does *not* explicitly sets the same page style to the break. Seeing this option, one could assume that "yes, the next page will have the same page style as this one, because it is explicitly set in the break settings". So a reasonable option to name this could be "Do not set page style explicitly" (which is lengthy, IMO with no practical benefit). WONTFIX IMO.
"Default PS" like "Default CS"?
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #7) > "Default PS" like "Default CS"? This seems unrelated to this specific issue (an entry in the specific dialog, where having "Default Page Style" in place of "{None}" would be even more misleading than other proposed options), and generally I dislike the idea of introducing this new pseudo-style in any other place.
This is not a bug. (+1 to comment 5) This is combining two different ideas/functions into one dialog box. None represents a simple page break (RES_BREAK). The others are section-page-breaks (RES_PAGEDESC) which specify a page style.
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #5) Obviously against replacing None with something else similar problematic :P None can be read as: * no style at all or * no style is explicitly set in the break setting Currently lacking inspiration how to solve the puzzle. Maybe Seth having an idea?
(In reply to Telesto from comment #10) > None can be read as: > * no style at all or It can't. LibreOffice does not have a "no page style" pages at all. It is just completely made up problem, that already took much more time from people who have better things to do.
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #11) > (In reply to Telesto from comment #10) > > None can be read as: > > * no style at all or > > It can't. LibreOffice does not have a "no page style" pages at all. It is > just completely made up problem, that already took much more time from > people who have better things to do. This might be reasonable from perspective of LibreOffice using a 'page style model' by definition. But well, I don't think all users grasp this. And Page Style "NONE" with in drop down list 'Default Page Style' doesn't make easier to grasp this. NONE is really able to suggest being 'no page style'. Whereas it's actually 'inherited' page style from the previous page(s)