The Master Document function is great. One of my... frustrations... with it is the cumbersome methods needed to open a subdocument for editing. For example, I will do a search for something. When I find it, if I want to edit the subdocument, I have to: * Right-click in the document * Choose "Edit section" and identify the section name * Open the navigator * Double-click on the document If I forget to do that and I try to write directly from the Master DOcument, I get a popup saying I'm not allowed. To open the document I have to do the same steps as above. My proposals: * Put an "Open Document" entry on the right-click menu. I would also change the current wording from "Edit section" to "Modify section information" or something. The goal is to mark a difference between modifying content and metadata. * In the "You can't edit" dialog, add a button that says "Open document." It might even be interesting to go to the current position in the subdocument, but I don't know how feasible that is.
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In the master document's Navigator you can right click and use Insert for a new sub-document. It's opened in a separate window, perhaps in the background. Edit, save, go back and update. To open one of the sub-documents just double click the entry in the Navigator. What piece is missing in this workflow?
THe ability to open a document without being forced to use the navigator. This is the current workflow, for example: * I am looking for a term, say "global research" * Do a search * When the term is located, I want to open that subdocument and edit it * I right-click on the master document * Then I select "Edit section" * It sends me to the Navigator and then I have to double click to open the subdocument * Repeat the search * Now, I can finally edit. What I want it to look like. Option 1 ======== * I am looking for a term, say "global research" * Do a search * When the term is located, I right-click on the master document * Then I select "Open section" (this does not exist) * Open the subdocument at the current location Option 2 ======== * I am looking for a term, say "global research" * Do a search * When the term is located, I start typing * I get a popup that says: "This document cannot be modified." * The popup has an "edit subdocument" option that I can click and be sent to the current location in the subdoc. So, just to be clear: everything is there. I just want it to be more streamlined. I want an improvement to the user experience.
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(In reply to L Duperval from comment #3) > THe ability to open a document without being forced to use the navigator. > ... > * I am looking for a term, say "global research" But this search would have to return a list similar to the Navigator. What's wrong with the Navigator? Missing keyboard access?
I will try to record a video to show what I mean. There is nothing missing. The problem is that it is cumbersome and unintuitive.
Here it is: https://www.loom.com/share/018151f1df4d4f368a733ac7f0174f23
(In reply to L Duperval from comment #7) > https://www.loom.com/share/018151f1df4d4f368a733ac7f0174f23 Thanks a lot for this video, makes it very clear. Would be good if you attach the sample document too. I wonder what happens when you "open" the section in the dialog that comes up with edit section (very clear to me what documents belong to which section but I agree that going back to the Navigator is annoying). And I wonder why you not edit in the master view. Possible solution that come in mind: * UNO command "Open Section" (guess the section context menu and commands are the same what you get in normal documents, checking whether it is a master document might be tricky) * highlight the correct entry in the Navigator (should be done anyway for proper feedback; we made huge steps forward recently and hopefully Jim is interested)
Here is another video showing another potential improvement route: https://www.loom.com/share/e0f88834d0004fac93f3884f19908b34
Created attachment 174580 [details] ODM sample in Zip file These are all the files that I used in the videos.
So we have actually three requests: #1: select/highlight the current section/subdocument in the Navigator #2: provide an Edit button on the read-only warning box (could imagine that this dialog is used in other cases too where Edit would be wrong; needs to be checked) #3: have means to open/edit a subdocument from the section dialog (the dialog is also used for ordinary embedded sections; the Open/Edit function would jump to the right place then) Anything missing?
🤔 didn't realize I was asking for so much... No, I think those would make it easier to navigate within Master Documents.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11) > So we have actually three requests: > #1: select/highlight the current section/subdocument in the Navigator bug 144349 > #2: provide an Edit button on the read-only warning box > (could imagine that this dialog is used in other cases too where Edit would > be wrong; needs to be checked) bug 144350 > #3: have means to open/edit a subdocument from the section dialog > (the dialog is also used for ordinary embedded sections; the Open/Edit > function would jump to the right place then) bug 144351
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #11) > #3: have means to open/edit a subdocument from the section dialog > (the dialog is also used for ordinary embedded sections; the Open/Edit > function would jump to the right place then) I don't see this proposal in the comment 0. I feel this interpretation totally invented. The original request's wording was very clear, and it was reasonable: (In reply to L Duperval from comment #0) > * Put an "Open Document" entry on the right-click menu. I would also change the > current wording from "Edit section" to "Modify section information" or something. It was talking about existing context menu available in Writer, when you right-click inside a section. It was specifically mentioning the other existing entry in the same menu, to help disambiguate the two entries in it. Having a context menu to open anything referenced, right inside the document, it intuitive. Having the menu (or, what's worse, double-click) in a dialog to close the dialog, and open another document, is a bad idea IMO.