(In reply to Heiko Tietze from bug 144493 comment #9) > Next four are > * Move Chapter Up > * Move Chapter Down > * Move Chapter Up with Subpoints > * Move Chapter Down with Subpoints Propose change from: “chapter”→ “item” Reasons: 1. B&N bar appears for lists, but “chapter” does not make sense (and is confusing) in relation to list items. 2. “item” can be interpreted meaningful in relation to numbered headings (i.e., chapters), as well as list items. 3. B&N bar always appears with lists, but only appears with "chapters" (headings) if headings have numbers (e.g., from Tools->Chapter Numbering). And some queries: a. Should B&N bar also appear with unnumbered headings (it doesn't at present), given that the .unos on that bar also work in that case? b. Should "with" in the tooltip be capitalized to be consistent with the "outline level" buttons? (or the outline level buttons should not capitalize "with") Even if "title" capitalization is being used here, different styles do or do not capitalize "with", so just a matter of being consistent.
+1, while this is applied to outline "chapters" the more generic "item" is more immediately comprehensible.
Code pointer in https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/128722
I looked around a bit and Help content does not seem to have any references to this UI element.
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #3) > I looked around a bit and Help content does not seem to have any references > to this UI element. Relevant page was never updated after bug 144493. See: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/swriter/main0206.html?&DbPAR=WRITER
In reply to comment #0: > b. Should "with" in the tooltip be capitalized to be consistent with the > "outline level" buttons? (or the outline level buttons should not > capitalize "with") Answering my own question: in LO UI guidelines, tooltips use sentence case, so "with" should not be capitalized [1], and for menu items (commands), LO UI Guidelines defer to KDE guidelines for Title Capitalization [2], where it states that prepositions fewer than five letters should not be capitalized. => need to change "With" to "with" in Demote/Promote Outline Level With Subpoints [1] https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Design/Guidelines/UIWriting [2] https://develop.kde.org/hig/style/writing/capitalization/
Seth Chaiklin committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/3b222bcd75d57db404cd2ed5dc97a5c492c28060 tdf#147107 "chapter" -> "item" in B&N toolbar and menu It will be available in 7.4.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #4) > https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/swriter/main0206. > html?&DbPAR=WRITER Will update the relevant entries in the help page for Bullet and Numbering bar, and then close this ticket. You are welcome to make suggestions here for improvements to those pages.
Seth Chaiklin committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/000df5aded9b5cbe2488dc2e9c9406c6b56767c5 Related:tdf#147107;tdf#144493 update B&N bar command names and explanations