Bug 148963 - Better differentiation of icons for "Restart Numbering" and "Insert Unnumbered Entry"
Summary: Better differentiation of icons for "Restart Numbering" and "Insert Unnumbere...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
Whiteboard: target:7.4.0
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Blocks: Icon-Theme-Breeze Icon-Theme-Colibre Icon-Theme-Sukapura
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Reported: 2022-05-06 11:28 UTC by sdc.blanco
Modified: 2023-10-02 09:05 UTC (History)
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Screenshot of icons plus suggestions for modifications (76.30 KB, image/png)
2022-05-06 11:28 UTC, sdc.blanco
Suggestion for Add to List (2.57 KB, image/png)
2022-06-28 16:15 UTC, sdc.blanco

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Description sdc.blanco 2022-05-06 11:28:31 UTC
Created attachment 179972 [details]
Screenshot of icons plus suggestions for modifications

1. Place cursor in a list paragraph.
2. Look at Bullet and Numbering bar.

Actual:  "Insert Unnumbered Entry" and "Restart Numbering" appear next to each other on the toolbar (OK), but they look very similar to each other (NOK. Hard to differentiate in a quick glance, especially for Sukapura theme).

Issue (or objective) behind this request for enhancement: hard to "see" with a quick glance, which icon goes to which command, especially because they appear next to each other on the toolbar.

Attached file gives screenshots of the icons (for two themes), and makes some concrete suggestions, with examples.  To summarise the attachment's main points, all aimed at making it easier to see the difference at a glance:

1. Make Sukapura bigger.
2. use Arabic, not Roman numerals.
3. Put unnumbered entry in middle of list
4. Use different numbers between ”restart” and ”unnumbered”  plus use larger numbers for restart.
Comment 1 Rizal Muttaqin 2022-05-12 23:05:14 UTC
Whoaaa nice input

I can agree with all of these inputs, but regarding Roman selection it's closely related to how LibreOffice changes icons in RTL documents. The icons will be flipped so that the Arabic numerals get really weird.
Comment 2 sdc.blanco 2022-05-13 00:52:23 UTC
(In reply to Rizal Muttaqin from comment #1)
> Roman selection ...> closely related to how LibreOffice changes icons in RTL 
Ok.  May work ok with Roman numbers.  For example, if the "Add to List" has a V  and "Insert..." does not, then this might help to make it easy to differentiate them at a quick glance (without having to pay attention to the detail).  Thanks.
Comment 3 Commit Notification 2022-05-26 09:56:46 UTC
Rizal Muttaqin committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":


Colibre: tdf#148963 improve Restart Numbering, Insert

It will be available in 7.4.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 4 sdc.blanco 2022-06-28 16:15:11 UTC
Created attachment 181005 [details]
Suggestion for Add to List

(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #3)
> Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Definite improvement for "Restart numbering" and "Insert unnumbered entry"

Have attached a proposal/suggestion for "Add to List"  (not part of original ticket, so I can open a new ticket if you want).

I noticed you used 4 and 5 for "Add to List", and one suggestion is to use 3 and 4, instead of 4 and 5 -- then there is no "overlap" between the three icons. 

But also -- "Add to List" is a little tricky because it is possible to use this command -- with the menus -- to add a non-list paragraph to a list.

For example:

1. item
2. item
3. item

non-list paragraph.

With the cursor in "non-list paragraph", you can right-click - List - Add to List, which will add this paragraph to the list as:  4. non-list paragraph.

The attachment shows a suggestion for how to represent it.  If you have tried this example, then I think you will understand the attachment.

(it is tricky because you can also add an item from one list to another -- but I think the attachment (with the arrow) gives a better "cue" or "signal" for "Add to List")
Comment 5 Jasen Ryan 2022-08-02 10:03:06 UTC Comment hidden (spam)