Bug 157296 - [DESIGN] [WRITER] Icons for unordered and ordered list are not different enough
Summary: [DESIGN] [WRITER] Icons for unordered and ordered list are not different enough
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
7.6.1.2 release
Hardware: All All
: low minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2023-09-17 23:23 UTC by Dennis Roczek
Modified: 2025-11-27 11:30 UTC (History)
3 users (show)

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icons for ordered and unordered list in colibri iconset (LO vers. 7.6.1.2) (1.55 KB, image/png)
2023-09-19 14:05 UTC, jan d
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icons for ordered and unordered list in colibri iconset, light mode (LO vers. 7.6.1.2) (890 bytes, image/png)
2023-09-19 14:07 UTC, jan d
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Description Dennis Roczek 2023-09-17 23:23:38 UTC
Description:
As described in the design telegram channel: these two icons (hopefully correct naming, here on german ui) dark mode standard theme are too crowdy plus  with not enough contrast - depending on the screen (here old macbook pro 2015)



Steps to Reproduce:
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Actual Results:
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Expected Results:
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Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: Yes

Additional Info:
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Comment 1 Rizal Muttaqin 2023-09-18 05:28:28 UTC
Could you please put any capture (please provide with built-in screenshoter not from another device. :D)
Comment 2 jan d 2023-09-19 14:05:16 UTC
Created attachment 189701 [details]
icons for ordered and unordered list in colibri iconset (LO vers. 7.6.1.2)
Comment 3 jan d 2023-09-19 14:07:56 UTC
Created attachment 189702 [details]
icons for ordered and unordered list in colibri iconset, light mode (LO vers. 7.6.1.2)
Comment 4 jan d 2023-09-19 14:18:25 UTC
Potential ways to improve this:

- The icons feature two lines for each list entry, leading to many elements in a small icon (particularly on lower resolutions). Word, Softmaker and gdocs use one line for each list entry.
- Alternatively, Abiword and the Elementary icon set use two lines for each list entry but only show two list entries.
- The contrast of light blue to the background is low. This applies particularly to the numbers in the ordered list icon. In the superscript icons of the colibri iconset, a slightly bolder font is used, alleviating the problem (this is a bit tricky, as both bright colors and thin lines are an important element of the colibri set but the superscript icon seems to balance this well)
Comment 5 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-10-02 09:05:15 UTC
(In reply to Dennis Roczek from comment #0)
> Description:
> As described in the design telegram channel: these two icons (hopefully
> correct naming, here on german ui) dark mode standard theme are too crowdy
> plus  with not enough contrast - depending on the screen (here old macbook
> pro 2015)

Denis, can you please confirm that you were talking about Colibre?

(In reply to jan d from comment #4)
> Potential ways to improve this:
> 
> - The icons feature two lines for each list entry, leading to many elements
> in a small icon (particularly on lower resolutions). Word, Softmaker and
> gdocs use one line for each list entry.
> - Alternatively, Abiword and the Elementary icon set use two lines for each
> list entry but only show two list entries.
> - The contrast of light blue to the background is low. This applies
> particularly to the numbers in the ordered list icon. In the superscript
> icons of the colibri iconset, a slightly bolder font is used, alleviating
> the problem (this is a bit tricky, as both bright colors and thin lines are
> an important element of the colibri set but the superscript icon seems to
> balance this well)

Thanks Jan, great suggestions. Rizal, what do you think? Reduce to two list items like the smaller sidebar/menu versions?
(which I guess would also have to be done for e.g. .uno:SetOutline and .uno:RemoveBullets for consistency)

See also related bug 157296.
Comment 6 Rizal Muttaqin 2023-10-02 10:09:56 UTC
Sorry, Dennis could you please confirm which icon theme that you think should be improved? I can see Sukapura in your Telegram screenshot but jan d otherwise bring similar issue with Colibre.
Comment 7 Dennis Roczek 2023-10-04 12:15:52 UTC
(In reply to Rizal Muttaqin from comment #6)
> Sorry, Dennis could you please confirm which icon theme that you think
> should be improved? I can see Sukapura in your Telegram screenshot but jan d
> otherwise bring similar issue with Colibre.

Yeah, this is Sukapura (dark), but yes, Collibre (dark) has the similar problem: the contrast is not high enough. (or maybe I'm simply getting old 😂)

In comparison to Yaru on my Linux laptop this is fine: orange dots and numbers are clearly recognizable.
Comment 8 QA Administrators 2023-10-05 03:20:09 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 QA Administrators 2025-11-27 11:30:41 UTC
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