Bug 149211 - Entry for "Object" in General Glossary needs review/clarification
Summary: Entry for "Object" in General Glossary needs review/clarification
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Documentation (show other bugs)
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7.4.0.0 alpha0+
Hardware: All All
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Blocks: HelpGaps-NewFeatures
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Reported: 2022-05-21 01:09 UTC by sdc.blanco
Modified: 2024-09-05 11:07 UTC (History)
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Description sdc.blanco 2022-05-21 01:09:36 UTC
Here is the entry for "Object" in the General Glossary [1].

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Object

An object is a screen element containing data. It can refer to application data, such as text or graphics.

Objects are independent and do not influence each other. Any object containing data can be assigned certain commands. For example, a graphic object has commands for image editing and a spreadsheet contains calculation commands.

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1. It is hard to understand what this entry means.

2. It is unclear if it is referring (at all) to images, shapes, textboxes, frames, and OLE objects -- where the Help pages are often using the term "object" as a "general" or "generic" term for referring to those different elements.

3. It seems important to improve that entry, especially given that the first two sentences of the General Glossary are:

    This glossary includes explanations of some of the most important terms
    you will come across in LibreOffice.

    Use the glossary to look up unfamiliar terms found in any LibreOffice 
    application.


[1] https://help.libreoffice.org/7.4/en-US/text/shared/00/00000005.html#object
Comment 1 Olivier Hallot 2023-03-09 23:22:09 UTC
My 2c:

+ An object is an element/component/part of a document and not a screen-exclusive element

+ An object is a non-text element, although it can represent text.

+ Object are anchored in the document (have anchor)
Comment 2 sdc.blanco 2023-03-10 00:01:03 UTC
Good input Olivier.

Would a "table" be an object (i.e., non-text, but not anchored)?

Shapes/Textboxes are objects, but sometimes it seems like they have limitations or characteristics that other objects (frames, graphics, OLE objects) do not have.  => if "help" refers to "objects", then have to be sure that the description applies to all "objects".

Is another defining feature "drag and drop"? (maybe just an alternative or elaboration to "anchored")
Comment 3 Olivier Hallot 2023-05-01 12:10:08 UTC
Response from ChatGPT: (!!!!!)

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In the context of a document, an object refers to a self-contained entity within the document that can be manipulated as a unit. An object can take many different forms depending on the type of document and the software used to create or manipulate it.

For example, in a word processing document, an object might be a table, an image, a chart, or a text box. In a presentation document, an object might be a slide, a shape, an image, or a text box. In a PDF document, an object might be a page, a form field, or an annotation.

Objects can be manipulated in various ways depending on the software being used. For example, in a word processing document, you might move an image or resize a table. In a presentation document, you might change the color of a shape or add an animation to a slide. In a PDF document, you might fill out a form field or add a comment to a page.

Overall, objects provide a way to organize and manipulate different elements within a document, making it easier to work with and customize the document to your needs.
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Comment 4 fpy 2024-09-05 11:07:44 UTC
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #0)
> Here is the entry for "Object" in the General Glossary [1].
> 

and it's linked from  
 " The Format menu contains commands for formatting selected cells, [[objects]], and cell contents in your document."

https://help.libreoffice.org/latest/en-US/text/scalc/main0105.html