If I have a bulleted list, open the "Bullets and Numbering" dialog, and choose the Position tab, the second and third fields are named "Numbering alignment" and "Numbering followed by". They should either be named "bullets" or "bulleting" when working on a bulleted list, or alternatively some generic term which would work for both bulleted and numbered lists.
IIRC, Seth had something similar recently. Put it on the pile of bug 153751?
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #1) > IIRC, Seth had something similar recently. Nope. Not connected to heading/chapter/level etc. But I can see the issue identified in the OP. fwiw -- do not experience it as a troubling discrepancy. It is easy enough to understand "numbering" metaphorically. And focus on the key words "alignment" and "followed by". Is it easy for the dialog to know whether it is editing ordered or unordered lists (so that it could show the appropriate label)? That would seem necessary to satisfy the OP request. Otherwise, would probably need to find a generic label for "numbering" like "list identifier" or "List ID" or "List Symbol".... where this "cure" might be worse than the "illness".
(In reply to sdc.blanco from comment #2) > fwiw -- do not experience it as a troubling discrepancy. > It is easy enough to understand "numbering" metaphorically. > And focus on the key words "alignment" and "followed by". So, I did mark this bug as "trivial", since it's not that bad. But I've seen people who get confused by it, and thus had trouble with instructions I gave them on how to manipulate their bulleted list. > Is it easy for the dialog to know whether it is editing > ordered or unordered lists (so that it could show the appropriate label)? I think so, because it shows, in the preview area, either bullets or numbers.
How about dropping the "Numbering"? Bulleting would be as misleading as numbering for alphanumerical "numbers". If we stick to some word it needs to be changed on the customize tab as well.
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4) > How about dropping the "Numbering"? So "alignment" and "followed by"? A bit too obscure, I'm afraid... > Bulleting would be as misleading as numbering for alphanumerical "numbers". I meant, use "bulleting" when it's a bulleted list, use "numbering" when it's a numbered list.
What about the word "Listing" for both types of lists?
(In reply to Waleed Mortaja from comment #6) > What about the word "Listing" for both types of lists? I don't think that's the right choice. A bullet is not a "listing", and neither is a number. I still think it's better to use "bullet" and "number" concretely, and not go for the same label.
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #7) > I still think it's better to use "bullet" and "number" concretely, and not > go for the same label. Another option is "list item indicator"; but maybe that's too long. "item indicator"? Too vague. Maybe "bullet/number"? Clumsy-sounding, and ambiguous. Still holding on to my last comment then.
Hmmm...interesting issue. I checked it in the Writer and see why Eyal would bring this up, it's inaccurate for bulleted lists. It does not interfere with completing the task, as language semantics works in a way to bring focus to the keywords, namely, "alignment" and "followed by". If we want to be more precise, it is always an option to drop "numbering" and leave "alignment" and "followed by" only.
We discussed the topic in the design meeting with the decision to drop "Numbering" from the label (changing the label or extending with more details might be confusing for users). Code pointer: sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/outlinepositionpage.ui (Tools > Chapter numbering) cui/uiconfig/ui/numberingpositionpage.ui (Format > Bullets and Numbering)
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #10) > We discussed the topic in the design meeting with the decision to drop > "Numbering" from the label i.e.: "Numbering alignment" -> "Alignment" "Numbering followed by" -> "Followed by"
Powerinno committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/4dd3e1fb72ce59d8f7266023f1f1810fb7bd9678 tdf#153986 Drop "Numbering" from the label in bullet list Format/Tools It will be available in 24.2.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Has to stay open as Help needs to be updated
Olivier Hallot committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/2250a507ab35df482392e9f1fe297bb57f300af9 tdf#153986 Drop "Numbering" from the label in bullet list Format/Tools
(In reply to Commit Notification from comment #14) Is this fixed now? Setting to NEEDINFO so it doesn't show up on beginner easy hacks list.
(In reply to Matt K from comment #15) > Is this fixed now? Looks like :-).