Bug 157705 - Allow ordered list indent to be cancelled from toolbar
Summary: Allow ordered list indent to be cancelled from toolbar
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
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7.6.2.1 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Reported: 2023-10-11 15:36 UTC by Jonathan Copus
Modified: 2023-10-26 11:57 UTC (History)
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Description Jonathan Copus 2023-10-11 15:36:53 UTC
Description:
Writer automatically indents ordered lists. A toolbar icon allows you to INCREASE the indent amount; but the 'Decrease indent' icon is greyed out. Suggestion: please allow this 'Decrease indent' icon to align the numbers with the left-hand margin of the rest of the text.
Thank you for a truly excellent program

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Type some text
2.Start an Ordered list
3.Try to use the 'Decrease indent' icon to align the numbers with the LH margin

Actual Results:
The 'Decrease indent' icon is greyed out

Expected Results:
I had hoped to be able to align the numbered of the ordered list with the left-hand margin of the rest of the text using this simple method.


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: Yes

Additional Info:
Tried this on three separate PCs now - same results.  A workaround turns out to be quite complicated.
Comment 1 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-10-25 21:37:55 UTC
Thank you for the suggestion.

The "decrease/increase indent" for ordered/unordered lists are really controls for "promote/demote outline level", not really about indentation.
The indentation used is the one defined for that outline level, and the default for outline level 1 is 0.64 cm.
So in my opinion, the request should be closed as "won't fix", but I'll check with the UX/Design team.

If you want to have a list that always starts at the margin, you can modify or create a paragraph style that uses the option "apply list style" (in the "Outline and List" tab), and make that list style start with an outline level 1 aligned at 0 cm.
Would that cover you use case?
Comment 2 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-10-25 21:40:44 UTC
(and really, these button labels should be context-dependent and should change to something like "increase/decrease outline level" when the cursor is in a list)
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2023-10-26 09:02:18 UTC
(In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #1)
> the request should be closed as "won't fix"

The function applies a lot of direct formatting to the paragraph. Instead, you could use the "Bullet •" list style (check the top-most icon-only buttons in the Styles tab of the sidebar, or pick it at the "Outline & List" tab of the paragraph properties dialog).

Most users are probably happy with the indentation, so I agree with WF.

(In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #2)
> (and really, these button labels should be context-dependent and should
> change to something like "increase/decrease outline level" when the cursor
> is in a list)

Sounds like a plan.
Comment 4 Jonathan Copus 2023-10-26 10:12:08 UTC
OK, fair enough - thanks for your help
Comment 5 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2023-10-26 11:57:33 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #3)
> (In reply to Stéphane Guillou (stragu) from comment #2)
> > (and really, these button labels should be context-dependent and should
> > change to something like "increase/decrease outline level" when the cursor
> > is in a list)
> 
> Sounds like a plan.

Reported in bug 157932.