Bug 161276 - Add N-Up brochure option to print smaller format booklet
Summary: Add N-Up brochure option to print smaller format booklet
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Printing and PDF export (show other bugs)
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Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL: https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/adding-...
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Blocks: Printer-Settings
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Reported: 2024-05-25 19:21 UTC by zuchtoja1
Modified: 2024-05-28 04:41 UTC (History)
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Description zuchtoja1 2024-05-25 19:21:23 UTC
Normally when using booklet print option, you end up with book, that’s 1/2 paper size, so for standard printer you hold stack of a4 paper in half and end up with a5 book.

  I think, good addition would be option to add option similar to “pages per sheet” in normal mode, where for example if you choose 2, you get stack of a4 paper, that you cut in half (lets say using guillotine), put one small stack on top of another, fold it in half and end up with a6 booklet.

  That or more options for home printing books would be nice to see.
Comment 1 Stéphane Guillou (stragu) 2024-05-27 00:45:40 UTC
Author brought up the topic on Ask.LO: https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/adding-more-options-to-booklet-print-mode/106208
I can't think of a suitable workaround.
Let's see what the UX team thinks.
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2024-05-27 10:29:46 UTC
Isn't it the "Pages per sheet" option? Can you provide an example document and/or screenshot?
Comment 3 zuchtoja1 2024-05-27 10:35:42 UTC
Pages per sheet is option that is greyed out when I choose booklet mode. 

Pager per sheet is optimized for keeping the paper same format as printed, just getting more content each sheet.
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2024-05-27 11:09:16 UTC
Some related tickets
Bug 55650 - Brochure/booklet printing does not support mixed page orientation
Bug 94342 - PRINTING: Printing certain page layouts (brochure/multiple pages-per-sheet) should enable fields for setting page size/orientation

Help says "LibreOffice is not designed to handle brochure printing of documents that include landscape page orientations, but it is possible to print such documents."
https://help.libreoffice.org/24.2/en-US/text/swriter/guide/print_brochure.html

Don't know why we have these restrictions. But for the actual issue, wouldn't it be much easier to export the document as PDF and use a tool that is better suited for layouting?
Comment 5 Heiko Tietze 2024-05-27 11:18:47 UTC
I wonder how this is related to bug 109152.
Comment 6 Regina Henschel 2024-05-27 12:41:31 UTC
(In reply to zuchtoja1 from comment #0)
> Normally when using booklet print option, you end up with book, that’s 1/2
> paper size, so for standard printer you hold stack of a4 paper in half and
> end up with a5 book.
> 
>   I think, good addition would be option to add option similar to “pages per
> sheet” in normal mode, where for example if you choose 2, you get stack of
> a4 paper, that you cut in half (lets say using guillotine), put one small
> stack on top of another, fold it in half and end up with a6 booklet.
> 
>   That or more options for home printing books would be nice to see.

If your printer is able to handle A5 paper, then getting an A6 brochure works the same as for an A5 brochure: Write your document in A6, print as brochure; paper size is A5 landscape. Depending on the printer you might need to go to "Properties" in the Printer section of the print dialog and make the needed settings directly at your printer, especially switching on duplex printing. The preview in the printer dialog considers those settings and shows you whether all is correct. Look at the dimension lines in the preview in the print dialog.
Some printers are not able to do duplex printing with A5 paper. In that case the printer user guide should tell you what to do.

If you want something else, please try to describe the desired workflow in step-by-step way.
Comment 7 zuchtoja1 2024-05-27 13:12:41 UTC
To Regina:

What I initially had in mind was to print on a4 paper, then cut it into a5 after printing, then put one stack on top of another, then fold it as a booklet.

However first cutting a4 paper into a5 and then printing booklet sounds like logical solution, I didn't think about.

To Heiko:

I will try to research tools for layouting, as they seem.to be what I need. Tho for now I only seen one from Adobe being used.
Comment 8 V Stuart Foote 2024-05-27 14:34:23 UTC
Two printing / layout concepts N-Up and Imposition:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N-up
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imposition

We're talking N-up here, but LO performing Imposition in its print dialog and corresponding extension to ODF would be awsome.