Bug 162624 - Calc-active cell indicator provide user toggle to restore pre-24.8 cell border
Summary: Calc-active cell indicator provide user toggle to restore pre-24.8 cell border
Status: RESOLVED DUPLICATE of bug 161709
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Calc (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
24.8.0.3 release
Hardware: All Windows (All)
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
URL: https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/calc-ac...
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Cell-Selection
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Reported: 2024-08-25 10:41 UTC by louserdt24
Modified: 2024-08-25 14:18 UTC (History)
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Description louserdt24 2024-08-25 10:41:18 UTC
Description:
Feature request https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=143733
was a bad idea, please see:
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/calc-active-cell-indicator-is-outside-the-cell-framework-24-2-3-2-24-8-0-3/109813

The FR is: to at least implement an on/off toggle.

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Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: Yes

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Comment 1 V Stuart Foote 2024-08-25 11:37:04 UTC
For UX-advise design consideration...

@Rafael, as the saying goes "No good deed..." if UX-advise picks this up, is a simple toggle even feasible to provide user a choice of the pre-24.8 border format?
Comment 2 V Stuart Foote 2024-08-25 12:25:57 UTC
Work on bug 142121 bug 143733 and adjustments of position off the cell border for bug 161234 / bug 161709 tweaked just the "selection overlay" which IIUC is more of a focus highlight. 

Rather than a toggle to bring overlay back onto the cell border--the behavior at 24.2--as the overlay is opaque it now will hide content in adjacent cells. If transparent it would only partly obscure them.

Could the overlay line color be made transparent?
Comment 3 Werner Tietz 2024-08-25 13:06:34 UTC
As already said in 
https://ask.libreoffice.org/t/calc-active-cell-indicator-is-outside-the-cell-framework-24-2-3-2-24-8-0-3/109813

I would vote for a **slightly** reduced size of the active-cell-indicator!
Comment 4 louserdt24 2024-08-25 13:09:05 UTC
Even a partial obscure is an hindrance, image a bookkeeper working with numbers the whole day having to constantly move the focus around just to check values? the original FR was based on what MS-Office does, MSO has never done this, so why is LO implementing something MS hasn't done and even if they have it would have been configurable.

What about a simple if/then/else based on a value:

<item oor:path="/org.openoffice.Office.Calc/Calculate/Other/CellFocusUI"><prop oor:name="UI" oor:op="fuse"><value>MSO/LO</value></prop></item>

Post and Pre 24.8 users will be happy.
Comment 5 Buovjaga 2024-08-25 13:30:08 UTC
A toggle would be silly, the last thing we need right now is a Cambrian explosion of UI options. I would close this as a duplicate of bug 161709.

On Friday commit 3b4a8406c2e7f4f6a7ac43e192fdb8ef266d4b6d was made. It makes the indicator hug the cell borders. You can see how it looks like by running a daily build, Win-x86_64@tb77-TDF on Windows from https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html
Comment 6 Rafael Lima 2024-08-25 13:50:37 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #5)
> A toggle would be silly, the last thing we need right now is a Cambrian
> explosion of UI options. I would close this as a duplicate of bug 161709.

Indeed, a toggle would not be a good idea... it would be too much effort to maintain both ways to draw the cell outline.

We should mark this ticket as a duplicate of bug 161709, because the idea of making this feature optional was also discussed there.

But in the end, let's simply remove the extra space.
Comment 7 V Stuart Foote 2024-08-25 14:18:17 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #5)
(In reply to Rafael Lima from comment #6)

fair enough --> dupe. And we'll see if the latest overlay adjustment there with https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/172266 commit (matching MSO, and Google Docs) appeals.

*** This bug has been marked as a duplicate of bug 161709 ***