Bug 164734 - UI: Labels for Radio-button in crop regarding scale confusing
Summary: UI: Labels for Radio-button in crop regarding scale confusing
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
25.8.0.0 alpha0+
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: needsDevAdvice, needsUXEval
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Reported: 2025-01-16 18:59 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2025-01-17 08:27 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Attachments
For reference: GIMP's Scale Image dialog (27.74 KB, image/png)
2025-01-17 08:27 UTC, Eyal Rozenberg
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Description Telesto 2025-01-16 18:59:20 UTC
Description:
UI: Labels for Radio-button in crop regarding scale confusing 

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Writer
2. Insert some JPG image
3. F4
4. Crop Tab

Actual Results:
There are two options:
* "Keep Scale"
* "Keep Image Size"

The phrasing appears to include a contradiction. "Keep Image Size" is actually scaling the image to make it fit into the 'original image dimensions' at the costs of image ratio (likely distorting it)

"Keep Scale' has nothing to do with scaling. So cropping the image by 2 cm for left shrinks the total width of the image by by 2 cm 




Expected Results:
Something more sensible


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Version: 25.2.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 94afced0195ef824e575176e33c79ca57484cd5c
CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 8.1 X86_64 (6.3 build 9600); UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL threaded
Comment 1 Telesto 2025-01-16 19:01:32 UTC
@Eyal,
Before I start brainstorming about a better wording, the current phrasing is odd, right? Or I'm I missing something
Comment 2 Eyal Rozenberg 2025-01-16 20:01:42 UTC
I would say a lot of the UI regarding crop is confusing.

First, you can't keep the image size when you crop an image. The whole idea is to remove some of that image. So that makes absolutely no sense.

As for "Keep Scale", I much better like the "chain"-type graphc/button that gimp uses (albeit in the image scale dialog). Will attach a screenshot soon. But beyond that - typically, the way these things work is that you have UI for selecting part of an image, and then you can adjust your selection or finalize the crop. Here, even though we have a preview, we can't manipulate it using the mouse, only using the up-down-button boxes.

Also, there is both a "Reset Crop" button, and an "Original Size" button, which does something that's not at all part of a crop and doesn't belong in this tab, which is cancel any scaling the image has applied to it already. You can't undo this change, either.

The image size boxes don't say whether that's current size or original size. Or - the cropped image size. The scale boxes don't say whether that's the scaling before cropping or after cropping. 

Finally, there is a separate UI for cropping accessible through the context menu, and the two don't interact. Not sure what I feel about that.
Comment 3 Heiko Tietze 2025-01-17 07:29:56 UTC
I cannot wrap my mind around crop and this option. And either way the result is the same.
Comment 4 Eyal Rozenberg 2025-01-17 08:27:02 UTC
Created attachment 198592 [details]
For reference: GIMP's Scale Image dialog

Promised screenshot regarding the "chain" or "chain link" button. (But be reminded that Crop and Scale are different things.)