Created attachment 200617 [details] Screenshot of the tabbed notebookbar in Writer, LO 25.8 nightly In the notebookbar tabbed UI mode, the RLT and LTR paragraph directions are placed one above the other - with a "toggle formatting marks", which also uses the pilcrow image, placed right next to the top button. That's confusing and kind of silly.
Yep, the over-under for the controls seems a little awkward, but only for the NB Tabbed UI. NB Tabbed Compact, Single Toolbar, Contextual Single places them side-by-side, while the Grouped and Grouped Compact place them onto the drop list menu of 'Paragraph' controls--top of the lb. Seems like the Tabbed UI Paragraph block could packed a little different to end up with them side-by-side? Andreas, Justin any thought?
(In reply to V Stuart Foote from comment #1) > Seems like the Tabbed UI Paragraph block could packed a little different to > end up with them side-by-side? > > Andreas, Justin any thought? The simplest thing, though not good enough IMO, is to put both directions on the top row, and move the non-printing characters toggle on the bottom row - a super-localized change. But it would be better to actually separate those somewhat. In fact, I'm not sure that the choice of a pilcrow for the non-printing characters is even appropriate, given how much that looks like the paragraph direction buttons.
We discussed the topic in the design meeting. And agree with Eyal's suggestion (In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #2) > ...put both directions on the top row, and move the non-printing characters > toggle on the bottom row Easy hack: Edit per Glade or any text editor ./sw/uiconfig/swriter/ui/notebookbar.ui (no C++ knowledge required) the position of SectionButtom93, SectionButtom130, and Home-ControlCodes1 in SectionButtom81