Bug 168059 - The order of tabs (whats on top, what is at the bottom) in the vertical tab in the image dialog is bit strange
Summary: The order of tabs (whats on top, what is at the bottom) in the vertical tab i...
Status: UNCONFIRMED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
26.2.0.0 alpha0+ master
Hardware: All All
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Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Vertical-Tab-dialogs
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Reported: 2025-08-22 11:07 UTC by Telesto
Modified: 2025-08-27 13:50 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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2025-08-22 11:08 UTC, Telesto
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Description Telesto 2025-08-22 11:07:41 UTC
Description:
The order of tabs (whats on top, what is at the bottom) in the vertical tab in the image dialog is bit strange

Steps to Reproduce:
1. Open Writer
2. Insert some image
3. Open the image properties dialog

Actual Results:
The tabs are organized arbitrary from my perspective 

Expected Results:
I would list the tab entry's the more commonly used to less commonly used. Or from general to specific tools. Sure there is the aspect of taste. Although some tabs belong together. So Area followed by Transparency| Crop followed by rotation (or other around)

A proposal
1. Position and size
2. Borders
3. Wrap
4. Area
5. Transparency
6. Crop
7. Rotation
8. Hyperlink
9. Macro


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
Version: 26.2.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: ccb3362a71f88213615bd39bd819ab8ec20d86cc
CPU threads: 8; OS: macOS 14.7.4; UI render: Skia/Metal; VCL: osx
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 1 Telesto 2025-08-22 11:08:03 UTC
Created attachment 202447 [details]
Screenshot
Comment 2 Heiko Tietze 2025-08-22 11:59:38 UTC
Didn't change the order but open for improvements. Many of these dialogs have similar options such as Font, Font Effects, Indent, Position & Size, etc. and we should define the sequence for not just one dialog. What comes in mind similar to image properties is objects, frames, and sections.
Comment 3 Telesto 2025-08-22 13:52:14 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Didn't change the order but open for improvements. 
Check

> Many of these dialogs have similar options such as Font, Font Effects, Indent,  > Position & Size, etc. and we should define the sequence for not just one dialog. > What comes in mind similar to image properties is objects, frames, and sections.

True. How do you want to approach this? A bug report each and ever dialog? Or some overall bug report?

Or discuss the sequence in a UX session for various dialogs. Apply the result, and eventually tweak sequence based on bugreport/enhancement requests as needed?
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2025-08-22 13:54:06 UTC
Let's see if there is really a problem first.
Comment 5 Telesto 2025-08-22 20:28:21 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> Let's see if there is really a problem first.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #2)
> Didn't change the order but open for improvements. Many of these dialogs
> have similar options such as Font, Font Effects, Indent, Position & Size,
> etc. and we should define the sequence for not just one dialog. What comes
> in mind similar to image properties is objects, frames, and sections.

Few other examples
Character dialog - fine
Paragraph dialog -> not OK (I would start with Alignment; Indent and spacings tab should be in proximity of Tabs tab)
Page style dialog -> after 'page' tab should follow the column tab, imho. No strong opinion about the other items
Paragrap style dialog -> not OK. The sequence should also be somewhat similar to the paragraph dialog

My logic is for general setting to more specific. And from more commonly used to more 'exotic'. And ideally so easy to recognize patterns. So area tab is always followed by transparency tab if applicable. And similar type of dialog should have similar sequence

I admit there quite a number of tabs in certain dialog which I tend to put at a arbitrary position

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Other approach would be to set a default and being able to customize the sequence; but feels like over-designing
Comment 6 BogdanB 2025-08-26 17:38:18 UTC
Heiko, +1 from me, in the case you analyze this in design meeting. Maybe even a survey for the order.