Bug 168990 - Font inconsistency
Summary: Font inconsistency
Status: RESOLVED NOTABUG
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: LibreOffice (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
unspecified
Hardware: All All
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Assignee: Not Assigned
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Reported: 2025-10-21 15:55 UTC by Danat
Modified: 2025-11-07 11:20 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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File in the video (11.24 KB, application/vnd.openxmlformats-officedocument.wordprocessingml.document)
2025-10-21 15:57 UTC, Danat
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Description Danat 2025-10-21 15:55:37 UTC
Description:
https://copilot.microsoft.com/chats/68P7vNZMWmaasq6EJV5WT

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1vs4syu1NJ1f3_qH-BzoE78NOPv5-nAWy/view?usp=sharing

Steps to Reproduce:
1.Copy Arabic text from Copilot
2.Write with its font
3.

Actual Results:
Different font 

Expected Results:
Same font


Reproducible: Always


User Profile Reset: No

Additional Info:
In the video
Comment 1 Danat 2025-10-21 15:57:28 UTC
Created attachment 203473 [details]
File in the video
Comment 2 Danat 2025-11-07 01:40:35 UTC
The root problem seems to be that both fonts are named "Lucida Sans", but they are different, so why call different things same names?

One should be called Lucida Sans, and the other should be called something else

Lucida Sans in LibreOffice writes as the font of the thaa' (ث) that is unlike the rest of the Arabic text. Lucida Sans that is like the rest of the Arabic text only appears after pasting from Copilot app
Comment 3 Danat 2025-11-07 01:45:52 UTC
(In reply to Danat from comment #2)
> The root problem seems to be that both fonts are named "Lucida Sans", but
> they are different, so why call different things same names?
> 
> One should be called Lucida Sans, and the other should be called something
> else
> 
> Lucida Sans in LibreOffice writes as the font of the thaa' (ث) that is
> unlike the rest of the Arabic text. Lucida Sans that is like the rest of the
> Arabic text only appears after pasting from Copilot app

thaa' (ث) in this report

I wrote the final letter thaa' by hand, but it was a different font although named the same (Lucida Sans)
Comment 4 Danat 2025-11-07 01:46:03 UTC
(In reply to Danat from comment #3)
> (In reply to Danat from comment #2)
> > The root problem seems to be that both fonts are named "Lucida Sans", but
> > they are different, so why call different things same names?
> > 
> > One should be called Lucida Sans, and the other should be called something
> > else
> > 
> > Lucida Sans in LibreOffice writes as the font of the thaa' (ث) that is
> > unlike the rest of the Arabic text. Lucida Sans that is like the rest of the
> > Arabic text only appears after pasting from Copilot app
> 
> thaa' (ث) in this report
> 
> I wrote the final letter thaa' by hand, but it was a different font although
> named the same (Lucida Sans)

https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=169009
Comment 5 Buovjaga 2025-11-07 05:45:15 UTC
Danat: please don't add random people to the Cc of bug reports.
Comment 6 Danat 2025-11-07 05:47:52 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #5)
> Danat: please don't add random people to the Cc of bug reports.

They are not random, I put on my list those who respond to me. And I remove from my list those who don't wish to be notified
Comment 7 Buovjaga 2025-11-07 05:56:37 UTC
(In reply to Danat from comment #6)
> (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #5)
> > Danat: please don't add random people to the Cc of bug reports.
> 
> They are not random, I put on my list those who respond to me. And I remove
> from my list those who don't wish to be notified

Don't quibble about the wording I chose, just don't do that anymore.
Comment 8 Danat 2025-11-07 05:59:31 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #7)
> (In reply to Danat from comment #6)
> > (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #5)
> > > Danat: please don't add random people to the Cc of bug reports.
> > 
> > They are not random, I put on my list those who respond to me. And I remove
> > from my list those who don't wish to be notified
> 
> Don't quibble about the wording I chose, just don't do that anymore.

ok
Comment 9 Hossein 2025-11-07 08:06:30 UTC
@Danat:
Please follow the advice from Buovjaga. He is a LibreOffice mentor, and following the instructions he provides to you, helps you provide better bug reports. In the current form, your bug reports are hard to follow, and provide little value.

And again, if you look closely at the status bar, the text you paste uses Hindi language, and the text you write uses Arabic (Saudi Arabia). And, the result is different. The language name is visible in the task bar.

This bug report is exactly the same as the previous one, tdf#169009. Therefore, I should also close this one as RESOLVED/NOTABUG.
Comment 10 Danat 2025-11-07 09:08:14 UTC
(In reply to Hossein from comment #9)
> @Danat:
> Please follow the advice from Buovjaga. He is a LibreOffice mentor, and
> following the instructions he provides to you, helps you provide better bug
> reports. In the current form, your bug reports are hard to follow, and
> provide little value.
> 
> And again, if you look closely at the status bar, the text you paste uses
> Hindi language, and the text you write uses Arabic (Saudi Arabia). And, the
> result is different. The language name is visible in the task bar.
> 
> This bug report is exactly the same as the previous one, tdf#169009.
> Therefore, I should also close this one as RESOLVED/NOTABUG.

No one will know people's problems unless they speak, and no one will speak if everyone is fearing embarrassment and judgement. You are cultivating this wrong culture

I can clearly see who wants to hear feedback and who does not 

I don't care to please people who care more about the way the reports are filed than the actual problems that require solutions
Comment 11 Hossein 2025-11-07 10:26:14 UTC
(In reply to Danat from comment #10)
> No one will know people's problems unless they speak, and no one will speak
> if everyone is fearing embarrassment and judgement. You are cultivating this
> wrong culture
> 
> I can clearly see who wants to hear feedback and who does not 
> 
> I don't care to please people who care more about the way the reports are
> filed than the actual problems that require solutions
Please use below website to report such problems, and get advise:

https://ask.libreoffice.org/

Filing bugs in Bugzilla requires structured writing, which you do not like. For example, you are supposed to make sure that the problem is not already reported. Also root cause of the issue is important (text language), which you ignored. If you don't care about the root cause, there will be no chance that developers can fix them.

Then, Ask LibreOffice is a better place for your feedback.
Comment 12 Buovjaga 2025-11-07 11:20:02 UTC
(In reply to Danat from comment #10)
> (In reply to Hossein from comment #9)
> > @Danat:
> > Please follow the advice from Buovjaga. He is a LibreOffice mentor, and
> > following the instructions he provides to you, helps you provide better bug
> > reports. In the current form, your bug reports are hard to follow, and
> > provide little value.
> > 
> > And again, if you look closely at the status bar, the text you paste uses
> > Hindi language, and the text you write uses Arabic (Saudi Arabia). And, the
> > result is different. The language name is visible in the task bar.
> > 
> > This bug report is exactly the same as the previous one, tdf#169009.
> > Therefore, I should also close this one as RESOLVED/NOTABUG.
> 
> No one will know people's problems unless they speak, and no one will speak
> if everyone is fearing embarrassment and judgement. You are cultivating this
> wrong culture
> 
> I can clearly see who wants to hear feedback and who does not 
> 
> I don't care to please people who care more about the way the reports are
> filed than the actual problems that require solutions

We care a lot about the problems, but there are literally 16 thousand reports we have to manage in Bugzilla, so the quality of the reports should be high to reduce unnecessary work. https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugReport#Good_reports