Description: When I try to insert the page number in a large multi-page document, at the top or bottom of the page, using the ‘Page Number Wizard’, for example, with left/right alignment, that number is arbitrarily aligned to the opposite side on even-numbered pages. In addition, when I insert the page number in the Bottom or Top position, with centre alignment, LO Writer does not display the page number on even-numbered pages. The scenarios where the error occurs are: Inserting Page Number in the Top Right Corner Inserting Page Number at Top Left Inserting Page Number at Bottom Right Inserting Page Number at Bottom Left Inserting Page Number at Top, Centred Inserting Page Number at Bottom, Centred This is very frustrating because it causes the user to become desperate and forced to abandon LibreOffice and look for another programme that does not generate this error, such as OnlyOffice, FreeOffice, Wps Office, Google Docs, or Microsoft Office. In all my tests, with large multi-page documents, this error occurs in all recent versions of LO (24.X.X, and 25.X.X). Steps to Reproduce: 1. Open a multi-page document in LO Writer. 2. Click on the ‘Insert’ menu. 3. Click on the ‘Page Number...’ option. 4. In the ‘Page Number Wizard,’ find the ‘Alignment’ section and select “Left” or ‘Right.’ 5. Keep the ‘Same content on even pages’ option enabled. 6. Preferably check and activate or select the ‘Fit to existing margins’ option. 7. Click on ‘OK’. 8. Navigate through the document and observe what happens on the even pages. Actual Results: On even pages, LO Writer arbitrarily aligns the page number on the opposite side from the one selected by the user. This means that the page number is aligned alternately on each page as follows: Left – right – left – right – left – right – left – right, etc., indefinitely, without respecting the fixed alignment selected by the user. Furthermore, if the user decides to place the page number at the bottom or top, but aligned in the centre, the page number disappears from the even-numbered pages Expected Results: LO Writer should not ignore the page number alignment options selected by the user, especially on even-numbered pages. Reproducible: Always User Profile Reset: Yes Additional Info: [Information automatically included from LibreOffice] Locale: es Module: TextDocument [Information guessed from browser] OS: Windows (All) OS is 64bit: no
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(In reply to Albert Acer from comment #0) How it works for me (but I agree, it is not intuitive) 1. Open attachment 204060 [details] 2. Delete footers 3. Place cursor into page 1 -> Insert -> Page Number 4. Position: Bottom of page | Alignment: Left | Deselect "Mirror on even pages" 5. OK 6. Place cursor into page 2 -> Insert -> Page Number 7. Position: Bottom of page | Alignment: Left | Deselect "Mirror on even pages" 8. OK Actual and expected result: All page numbers are left I can't see the option "Same content on even pages". So perhaps it's a wrong labelling for the "Mirror on even pages" option. that would at least explain the problem. Version: 25.8.2.2 (X86_64) Build ID: d401f2107ccab8f924a8e2df40f573aab7605b6f CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 11 X86_64 (build 26200); UI render: Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB Calc: CL threaded
Created attachment 204079 [details] Screenshot 01 I use LibreOffice in Spanish because I'm in Colombia and I see the options of the Page Number Wizard in Spanish like this:
(In reply to Dieter from comment #7) > (In reply to Albert Acer from comment #0) > How it works for me (but I agree, it is not intuitive) > 1. Open attachment 204060 [details] > 2. Delete footers > 3. Place cursor into page 1 -> Insert -> Page Number > 4. Position: Bottom of page | Alignment: Left | Deselect "Mirror on even > pages" > 5. OK > 6. Place cursor into page 2 -> Insert -> Page Number > 7. Position: Bottom of page | Alignment: Left | Deselect "Mirror on even > pages" > 8. OK > > Actual and expected result: > All page numbers are left > > I can't see the option "Same content on even pages". So perhaps it's a wrong > labelling for the "Mirror on even pages" option. that would at least explain > the problem. > > Version: 25.8.2.2 (X86_64) > Build ID: d401f2107ccab8f924a8e2df40f573aab7605b6f > CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 11 X86_64 (build 26200); UI render: > Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win > Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB > Calc: CL threaded I agree with you because I tested it many times by unchecking or deselecting the “Same Content on Even Pages” option, and that way the page number alignment works perfectly, always on the same side (left or right). However, I think it is necessary to make an adjustment in LO Writer so that the option “Same content on even pages” (in Spanish) or “Mirror on even pages” (in English) is never selected by default because this complicates the immediate result for the end user. Why should this adjustment be made? Because in all other office suites, this is intuitive and instantaneous for the user, who only has to choose where they need the page number to be aligned in a document (left or right), and that's it; no further action is required. Therefore, I still think this should be an opportunity for improvement in future versions of LibreOffice, given that all other office suites have this option (“Mirror on even pages”) is never selected by default so that the user can see the result instantly without any complexities in the learning curve, especially now that Microsoft has not only ended support for Windows 10 but also for its versions of Office 2013, 2016, and 2019, which will likely cause a massive migration of users to LibreOffice. Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
The "Same Content on Even Pages" option (in Spanish: "Mismo contenido en páginas pares") appears in the English versions of LibreOffice as "Mirror on even pages" which should not be selected by default in the program
(In reply to Dieter from comment #7) > (In reply to Albert Acer from comment #0) > How it works for me (but I agree, it is not intuitive) > 1. Open attachment 204060 [details] > 2. Delete footers > 3. Place cursor into page 1 -> Insert -> Page Number > 4. Position: Bottom of page | Alignment: Left | Deselect "Mirror on even > pages" > 5. OK > 6. Place cursor into page 2 -> Insert -> Page Number > 7. Position: Bottom of page | Alignment: Left | Deselect "Mirror on even > pages" > 8. OK > > Actual and expected result: > All page numbers are left > > I can't see the option "Same content on even pages". So perhaps it's a wrong > labelling for the "Mirror on even pages" option. that would at least explain > the problem. > > Version: 25.8.2.2 (X86_64) > Build ID: d401f2107ccab8f924a8e2df40f573aab7605b6f > CPU threads: 12; OS: Windows 11 X86_64 (build 26200); UI render: > Skia/Vulkan; VCL: win > Locale: de-DE (de_DE); UI: en-GB > Calc: CL threaded I agree with you because I tested it many times by unchecking or deselecting the “Mismo Contenido en páginas pares” option, and that way the page number alignment works perfectly, always on the same side (left or right). However, I think it is necessary to make an adjustment in LO Writer so that the option “Mismo Contenido en páginas pares” (in Spanish) or “Mirror on even pages” (in English) is never selected by default because this complicates the immediate result for the end user. Why should this adjustment be made? Because in all other office suites, this is intuitive and instantaneous for the user, who only has to choose where they need the page number to be aligned in a document (left or right), and that's it; no further action is required. Therefore, I still think this should be an opportunity for improvement in future versions of LibreOffice, given that all other office suites have this option (“Mirror on even pages”) is never selected by default so that the user can see the result instantly without any complexities in the learning curve, especially now that Microsoft has not only ended support for Windows 10 but also for its versions of Office 2013, 2016, and 2019, which will likely cause a massive migration of users to LibreOffice.
(In reply to Albert Acer from comment #10) > The "Same Content on Even Pages" option (in Spanish: "Mismo contenido en > páginas pares") appears in the English versions of LibreOffice as "Mirror on > even pages" which should not be selected by default in the program The problem is, that labelling in Spanish seems to be wrong. Option should be named "Espejo en páginas pares" (regarding to deepl.com) Sorry, but can't test with spanish UI
(In reply to Dieter from comment #12) > (In reply to Albert Acer from comment #10) > > The "Same Content on Even Pages" option (in Spanish: "Mismo contenido en > > páginas pares") appears in the English versions of LibreOffice as "Mirror on > > even pages" which should not be selected by default in the program > > The problem is, that labelling in Spanish seems to be wrong. Option should > be named "Espejo en páginas pares" (regarding to deepl.com) > > Sorry, but can't test with spanish UI Dieter, you're absolutely right. I totally agree with you. There is a big problem with the Spanish translation of the string "Mirror on even pages". I think that the LibreOffice team, especially the localization team, should correct that translation to avoid causing confusion. I am a native Spanish speaker because I was born in Colombia. And the translation of that string, as it is currently set, causes terrible confusion among us users. I agree with Dieter's proposed translation as "Espejo en páginas pares". But also, I think that this option ("Mirror on even pages") should not be activated by default from the LibreOffice factory, at least for the "Insert Page Number" function, because that option ("Mirror on even pages"), in practical terms, produces the result of alternating the alignment of the page number in large documents with multiple pages (Left/right/left/right or Right/left/right/left) contradicting the user's desire to have the page number always aligned on the same side (left or right).