Bug 38394 - EDITING: Can't insert a French opening quote after an apostrophe using AutoCorrection
Summary: EDITING: Can't insert a French opening quote after an apostrophe using AutoCo...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
(earliest affected)
3.3.2 release
Hardware: Other All
: medium minor
Assignee: Not Assigned
: 57815 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: AutoCorrect-Complete
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Reported: 2011-06-17 01:52 UTC by Milan Bouchet-Valat
Modified: 2018-12-07 03:47 UTC (History)
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Description Milan Bouchet-Valat 2011-06-17 01:52:37 UTC
In French, right quotes " are transformed via AutoCorrection rules to « and » depending on whether the quote appears at the beginning or at the end of a word. This works very well. But it should also be transformed into an opening quote when inserted after an apostrophe.

The reason is, the French defined article (equivalent of "the"), which is "le" or "la", becomes "l'" when the word starts with a vowel. Thus, to say:
> the "alphabet"
we need to write:
> l'« alphabet »

I don't think there's any technical reason for this not to be possible, since inserting a quote after a parenthesis but at the begginning of a word inserts an opening quote (correct). Apostrophes should simply not be considered part of a normal word.

The character for apostrophe can be:
- ' U+0027 APOSTROPHE (default ASCII single quote)
- ’ U+2019 RIGHT SINGLE QUOTATION MARK (when auto replacement is enabled, preferred character anyways)
Comment 1 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 12:26:06 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 2 Milan Bouchet-Valat 2012-06-04 13:39:23 UTC
Confirmed with LibreOffice

Maybe I should be more explicit about the present state of affairs: my bug description says what should happen, but does not describe well what happens now. The problem ATM is that you get:
> l' »alphabet »
instead of
> l'« alphabet »

i.e. the opening quote is not detected correctly, and is added as a closing quote.
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2013-02-18 06:31:08 UTC
Related to "Bug 57815 - Wrong closing » instead of « opening quotation mark behind apostrophe in French language text"
Comment 4 Julien Nabet 2014-05-03 20:39:21 UTC
*** Bug 57815 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 5 Julien Nabet 2014-05-03 20:40:41 UTC
Pb still here on master sources updated yesterday.
Comment 6 QA Administrators 2015-06-08 14:41:57 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 7 Milan Bouchet-Valat 2015-06-08 15:05:11 UTC
Still present in
Comment 8 QA Administrators 2016-09-20 10:01:01 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 9 Milan Bouchet-Valat 2016-09-20 12:49:00 UTC
Still present in
Comment 10 halima 2017-08-22 03:10:11 UTC
Faced same issue on LO Version: (x64)
Build ID: 7556cbc6811c9d992f4064ab9287069087d7f62c
Threads CPU : 4; OS : Windows 6.19;

Also, as Milan Bouchet-Valat mentioned, the opening quote is not detected correctly, the first one is a closing quote instead of the opening quote
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2018-12-07 03:47:32 UTC
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