Bug 38779 - Position of text boxes not retained when opening MS Office .doc files FORMATTING problem
Summary: Position of text boxes not retained when opening MS Office .doc files FORMATT...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.3.0 release
Hardware: All All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Keywords: filter:doc
Depends on:
Blocks: DOC-Frames
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Reported: 2011-06-29 09:47 UTC by Ian Stuart
Modified: 2025-05-29 03:13 UTC (History)
5 users (show)

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Shows text boxes misaligned (305.00 KB, application/msword)
2011-06-29 09:47 UTC, Ian Stuart
Details
The same document saved as PDF using msWord 2007 (85.99 KB, application/pdf)
2012-09-21 11:54 UTC, sasha.libreoffice
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Letterhead with image and textbox at top of page (242.00 KB, application/msword)
2012-12-04 14:27 UTC, Ian Stuart
Details
the same document, saved as PDF in msWord 2007 (38.58 KB, application/pdf)
2012-12-05 09:21 UTC, sasha.libreoffice
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38779_min.doc: minimal example - should be 1cm from paragraph, not 1cm from page (62.00 KB, application/msword)
2023-05-29 19:15 UTC, Justin L
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Description Ian Stuart 2011-06-29 09:47:51 UTC
Created attachment 48565 [details]
Shows text boxes misaligned

When opening a Microsoft document with LibO 3.3.1, 3.3.2, 3.4.0 or 3.4.1RC3 on Linux or Windows the page format is not maintained such that text boxes are misaligned.

OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 seems to do a reasonable job of maintaining margins/positions and placing the text boxes almost correctly.  I hope that drawing comparisons between the two apps will help.

The document "header" (not in a heading area) contains 3 text boxes and one image.


When viewing the position of the leftmost text box in OpenOffice it shows the horizontal position from left as -0.10" to Paragraph area

whereas:

LibO seems to interpret the horizontal position as 0.00" from left to Entire Page resulting in the text box moving to the left.

In OpenOffice the horizontal position of the rightmost text box is positioned 4.86" from left to Paragraph area

whereas:

In LibO the rightmost text box is positioned 4.86" from left to Entire Page


There seems to be differences in interpreting the MS format.
Comment 1 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 12:23:36 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 2 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 13:59:26 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 3 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:00:38 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:05:20 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 5 Florian Reisinger 2012-08-14 14:07:22 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 sasha.libreoffice 2012-09-21 11:54:03 UTC
Created attachment 67495 [details]
The same document saved as PDF using msWord 2007
Comment 7 sasha.libreoffice 2012-09-21 11:55:47 UTC
I can not find differences between pdf and doc on 3.6.1 on Fedora 64 bit
IMHO status should be WFM
Comment 8 sasha.libreoffice 2012-12-04 05:10:59 UTC
Changing to WFM

@  Ian Stuart 
Please, reopen this bug if problem remains
Comment 9 Ian Stuart 2012-12-04 14:27:07 UTC
Created attachment 70998 [details]
Letterhead with image and textbox at top of page

Text box in MS Word document not correctly aligned using Libreoffice 3.5.  The attachment is a document with a text box that is displayed incorrectly aligned to the left margin of the page with Libreoffice as opposed to aligned correctly when opened with MS Word.
Comment 10 sasha.libreoffice 2012-12-05 09:21:04 UTC
Created attachment 71024 [details]
the same document, saved as PDF in msWord 2007
Comment 11 sasha.libreoffice 2012-12-05 09:34:50 UTC
Thanks for attachment
Reproduced with last attached doc file 
in 3.4.2 on Windows XP 32 bit
in 3.5.7 and 3.6.3 on RFR 17 64 bit

Header contains frame with text. It's position is -0.27cm to right from column.
Writer haves no such option for horizontal aligning. Opens incorrectly.
Comment 12 Joel Madero 2015-05-02 15:43:15 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 Buovjaga 2015-06-21 11:00:21 UTC
Confirmed.

Win 7 Pro 64-bit Version: 5.1.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: 3ecef8cedb215e49237a11607197edc91639bfcd
TinderBox: Win-x86@62-merge-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2015-06-19_23:16:58
Locale: fi-FI (fi_FI)
Comment 14 QA Administrators 2016-09-20 10:10:16 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 15 Telesto 2016-12-06 12:52:13 UTC
Reproduced with:
Version: 5.4.0.0.alpha0+
Build ID: 33f5bc54aaa7fe7aa9335726e30f9c349155e04d
CPU Threads: 4; OS Version: Windows 6.2; UI Render: default; 
TinderBox: Win-x86@62-merge-TDF, Branch:MASTER, Time: 2016-12-01_23:21:05
Locale: nl-NL (nl_NL); Calc: CL
Comment 16 Xisco Faulí 2017-07-13 10:51:25 UTC
Setting Assignee back to default. Please assign it back to yourself if you're
still working on this issue
Comment 17 Ekansh Jha 2017-12-01 09:09:47 UTC
I want to work on this issue, please tell me the code pointer.
Comment 18 QA Administrators 2018-12-03 03:59:27 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 19 QA Administrators 2020-12-03 04:16:09 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 20 Aron Budea 2021-08-10 03:00:15 UTC
(In reply to Ian Stuart from comment #0)
> OpenOffice.org 3.3.0 seems to do a reasonable job of maintaining
> margins/positions and placing the text boxes almost correctly.  I hope that
> drawing comparisons between the two apps will help.
Interestingly this indeed looks better in OO 3.3.0 vs. LO 3.3.0.
Comment 21 Justin L 2023-05-29 19:15:32 UTC
Created attachment 187594 [details]
38779_min.doc: minimal example - should be 1cm from paragraph, not 1cm from page
Comment 22 Justin L 2023-05-29 20:27:06 UTC
Using MS Word 2010, I saved as DOCX (LO opens that fine). Then I used MS Word to save the DOCX back to DOC. It alerted me that it needed to convert frame stuff to "something suitable" for DOC, and LO opens that one fine.

Using the minimum version, I see the same curious thing as comment 20 - it is fine in OOo 3.3, but in the first LO 3.3 it is aligned to page, not paragraph.
Comment 23 QA Administrators 2025-05-29 03:13:10 UTC
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