Bug 41775 - Don't remove all menus when no windows are open - keep Tools and Help
Summary: Don't remove all menus when no windows are open - keep Tools and Help
Status: RESOLVED FIXED
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: UI (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.4.3 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) macOS (All)
: medium normal
Assignee: Patrick (volunteer)
URL:
Whiteboard: target:25.8.0 target:25.2.1 target:25...
Keywords:
Depends on:
Blocks: macOS-UI-polish
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Reported: 2011-10-13 20:28 UTC by Shad Sterling
Modified: 2025-03-21 15:29 UTC (History)
11 users (show)

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Crash report or crash signature:


Attachments
Menus showing when Main Window is open (214.39 KB, image/png)
2013-11-15 13:31 UTC, Emir Sarı
Details
Only File menu is shown when no windows are open (226.57 KB, image/png)
2013-11-15 13:32 UTC, Emir Sarı
Details
File menu when no windows are open (181.45 KB, image/png)
2013-11-15 13:45 UTC, Emir Sarı
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File menu when a window is open (96.01 KB, image/png)
2013-11-15 13:45 UTC, Emir Sarı
Details
Sorted list of all action commands that are in the Start Center menu (1.28 KB, text/plain)
2025-01-10 01:08 UTC, Patrick (volunteer)
Details
Snapshot of current state (1.17 MB, image/png)
2025-01-10 01:23 UTC, Patrick (volunteer)
Details
Snapshot of updated "no windows" menubar (895.22 KB, image/png)
2025-01-12 15:42 UTC, Patrick (volunteer)
Details
Snapsnot of File > New menu in "no windows" menubar (1.10 MB, image/png)
2025-01-13 00:44 UTC, Patrick (volunteer)
Details

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Description Shad Sterling 2011-10-13 20:28:35 UTC
I downloaded an extension while LibreOffice was running and had no windows open; after the download, I switched back to LibreOffice to install the extension, and noticed the Tools menu was gone, so I had to open a document before I could install the extension.

This makes no sense; most of the items on the Tools menu are only useful when a document is open, but every item in the last section - for example, Extension Manager - is not document specific and should remain available when no window is open.  The same applies to almost every item in the Help menu.
Comment 1 Björn Michaelsen 2011-12-23 12:34:07 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 2 Shad Sterling 2012-01-14 16:13:52 UTC
No change in 3.5.0beta2
Comment 3 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-07-14 06:59:02 UTC
@Shad Sterling
<https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ#How_to_select_correct_Bug_Status>

@Roman
Can you confirm this problem?
Comment 4 Rainer Bielefeld Retired 2012-07-14 07:12:35 UTC
@reporter:
Thank you for your report – unfortunately important information is missing.
May be hints on <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport> will help you to find out what information will be useful to reproduce your problem? If you believe that that  is really sophisticated please as for Help on a user mailing list
Please:
- Write a meaningful Summary describing exactly what the problem is
- Attach screenshots with comments if you believe that that might explain the 
  problem better than a text comment. Best way is to insert your screenshots
  into a DRAW document and to add comments that explain what you want to show
- Contribute a document related step by step instruction containing every 
  key press and every mouse click how to reproduce your problem 
  (similar to example in Bug 43431)
- add information 
  -- what EXACTLY is unexpected
  -- and WHY do you believe it's unexpected (cite Help or Documentation!)
  -- concerning your OS (Version, Distribution, Language)
  -- concerning your LibO localization (UI language, Locale setting)
  –- Libo settings that might be related to your problems 
  -- how you launch LibO
  -- everything else crossing your mind after you read linked texts

Even if you can not provide all demanded information, every little new information might bring the breakthrough.

It seems you are talking aboput LibO Start Center?
Comment 5 Roman Eisele 2012-07-14 07:32:31 UTC
(In reply to comment #4)
> @reporter:
> Thank you for your report – unfortunately important information is missing.
[...]
I think I can answer for Shad Sterling here (but please correct me, Shad Sterling, if you meant something else!).

> It seems you are talking about LibO Start Center?
If I understand the original report right, Shad Sterling is talking about a different situation which just does not occur on Windows (I don't know about Linux): on MacOS and MacOS X, an application can be running *without* any open windows at all; the global menu bar of the application is still available even when all windows are closed.

In LibreOffice, this happens if you close all document windows *and* the Start Center: the menu bar is still available, but contains only three entries: the System (Apple) menu, the application menu ("LibreOffice", containing mostly "Preferences" (Options) and "Quit LibreOffice") and the "File" menu. But there is no "Tools" menu and no "Help" menu, and this is what Shad Sterling is talking about.


REPRODUCIBLE with
* LibreOffice 3.4.0, OOO340m1 (Build:12)
* LibreOffice 3.4.6, OOO340m1 (Build:602)
* LibreOffice 3.5.5.3, Build-ID: 7122e39-92ed229-498d286-15e43b4-d70da21
* LibreOffice 3.6.0.0.beta3 (Build ID: 3e2b862)
and also with
* AOO 3.4.0
all with German langpack installed, all on MacOS X 10.6.8 (Intel).

Shad Sterling is right, "this makes no sense", especially from the point of view of MacOS and MacOS X users. MacOS (7, 8, 9) and MacOS X (10.x) applications which conform to Apple's Human Interface Guidelines (HIG) *never* hide unused menus, they just disable them; if I remember correctly, Apple required this explicitely at least in the older versions of the HIG (I did not read the last revisions).

If a application is very complex (like LibreOffice), it can temporarily exchange *some* of the menus to adapt to the current editing situation, just like LibreOffice shows different Menus in Writer, Calc, Impress, etc. But at least the standard menus, which are, according to Apple's HIG, the System (Apple) menu, the Application menu ("LibreOffice", does not exist on Windows?!), the menus "File", "Edit", often "Windows", and "Help", should *never* be hidden. If no entry of such a menu is applicable, e.g. in the "Edit" menu when no documents are open, just disable the complete menu, but do not hide it.

So, at least on MacOS X, the menus "LibreOffice", "File", "Edit", "View", "Tools", "Windows", and "Help" should be visible under all circumstances. This is already true and working fine as long as the Start Center window is open. We just need to change the situation when no window at all is open: in this situation, the menu bar should look and behave just like when the Start Center is open.
Comment 6 Roman Eisele 2012-07-14 07:39:54 UTC
@Thorsten Behrens:
This is a simple and compelling bug report about a simple MacOS X UI issue; the problem is not dramatic, but on the other hand it should be rather easy to fix this, so please take a look at it. Maybe this could be an "Easy hack"? Sometimes such little UI improvements do most to make the application look professional. Thank you in advance!
Comment 7 Shad Sterling 2012-07-14 17:00:53 UTC
@Roman Eisele, you have it right.  I also see the same behavior with 3.5.5.3 on OS X 10.7.4.

@Rainer Bielefeld, this bug is, as Roman elaborated, not about the Start Center, but about the LibreOffice menu items on the OS X menu bar when no windows are open.  (Bug #41776 is about the Start Center.)  Is any more information needed to understand this bug?
Comment 8 Emir Sarı 2013-11-15 10:54:13 UTC
@Kendy, 

Could it be possible to fix this small but annoying issue? Or maybe some code pointers that would help people to have a look at it? It is a small but very Mac-unlike detail of LibreOffice. 

I appreciate any help about this. :)
Regards,
Comment 9 Jan Holesovsky 2013-11-15 11:17:01 UTC
Emir: This is OSX specific, right? - would be great to attach a screenshot to show what's going on :-)
Comment 10 Emir Sarı 2013-11-15 13:31:51 UTC
Created attachment 89269 [details]
Menus showing when Main Window is open
Comment 11 Emir Sarı 2013-11-15 13:32:35 UTC
Created attachment 89270 [details]
Only File menu is shown when no windows are open
Comment 12 Emir Sarı 2013-11-15 13:33:29 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 Emir Sarı 2013-11-15 13:45:09 UTC
Created attachment 89271 [details]
File menu when no windows are open

This menu should be removed I think, because it causes inconsistency among menus
Comment 14 Emir Sarı 2013-11-15 13:45:52 UTC
Created attachment 89272 [details]
File menu when a window is open

This menu should appear
Comment 15 QA Administrators 2015-04-19 03:20:44 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 16 Shad Sterling 2015-04-23 22:55:03 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 17 QA Administrators 2016-09-20 09:33:06 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 18 Shad Sterling 2016-09-20 17:12:36 UTC
No change in bug behavior in 5.2.0.4 on OS X 10.11.6.
Comment 19 Jim DeLaHunt 2017-03-21 21:03:02 UTC
No change in bug behavior in 5.3.1.2 on OS X El Capitan 10.11.6.
Comment 20 QA Administrators 2018-03-22 03:38:33 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 21 Jim DeLaHunt 2018-03-22 05:42:00 UTC
No change in bug behavior in 5.4.1.2 on OS X El Capitan 10.11.6.

LibreOffice… About LibreOffice version information is:
Version: 5.4.1.2
Build ID: ea7cb86e6eeb2bf3a5af73a8f7777ac570321527
CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.11.6; UI render: default; 
Locale: en-CA (en.UTF-8); Calc: group
Comment 22 QA Administrators 2021-02-02 03:50:43 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 23 Jim DeLaHunt 2021-02-02 07:40:30 UTC
No change in bug behavior in 7.0.3.1 on OS X High Sierra 10.13.6.

LibreOffice… About LibreOffice version information is:
Version: 7.0.3.1
Build ID: d7547858d014d4cf69878db179d326fc3483e082
CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.13.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx
Locale: en-CA (en_CA.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded

Regarding the possibility of a regression, I have not tested this behaviour with LO version 3.3. However, note that the bug report dates back over 9 years to LO version 3.4.3.

Please keep this in the queue, QA Administrators.
Comment 24 QA Administrators 2023-02-03 03:22:26 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 25 Shad Sterling 2023-02-03 07:30:44 UTC
As with every previous time, no change for more than 10 years now

Version: 7.4.1.2 / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 3c58a8f3a960df8bc8fd77b461821e42c061c5f0
CPU threads: 16; OS: Mac OS X 13.2; UI render: default; VCL: osx
Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 26 Chas Belov 2024-05-02 17:40:57 UTC
Steps in macOS 14.4.1:

1. Launch LibreOffice 24.2.3.2

Expected and Actual Results: 4 app menus: LibreOffice, File, Tools, Help

2. Click the close button in the startup window title bar

Expected Result: 4 app menus: LibreOffice, File, Tools, Help
Actual Result: 2 app menus: LibreOffice, File
Comment 27 Heiko Tietze 2024-12-20 13:37:46 UTC
Patrick, do you have an idea about this? Keeping File, Tools, and Help always visible sounds reasonable to me.
Comment 28 Patrick (volunteer) 2024-12-21 00:25:21 UTC
(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #27)
> Patrick, do you have an idea about this? Keeping File, Tools, and Help
> always visible sounds reasonable to me.

I think this is feasible. I found where this menu is created in the LibreOffice code and replaced the UNO command for the "Template Manager" menu item (see debug patch below for a sample). I tried the UNO commands that are used in the Start Center's Tools > Options and Help menus for a quick test. Those worked so I am confident that most of the Start Center's menus can be used when all windows are closed.

Looks like this menu is a hardcoded list (no menubar.xml) loaded so when I get some time, I will see if I can replace the hardcoded list with loading the menus from the Start Center's menubar.xml. If I can do that, then I can see which, if any, menu items don't work without a window:


diff --git a/sfx2/source/appl/shutdownicon.cxx b/sfx2/source/appl/shutdownicon.cxx
index b16be15bcf70..c07a0d04c652 100644
--- a/sfx2/source/appl/shutdownicon.cxx
+++ b/sfx2/source/appl/shutdownicon.cxx
@@ -213,7 +213,8 @@ void ShutdownIcon::FromTemplate()
         xFrame = xDesktop;
 
     URL aTargetURL;
-    aTargetURL.Complete = ".uno:NewDoc";
+    // aTargetURL.Complete = ".uno:NewDoc";
+    aTargetURL.Complete = ".uno:HelpIndex";
     css::uno::Reference< util::XURLTransformer > xTrans( util::URLTransformer::create( ::comphelper::getProcessComponentContext() ) );
     xTrans->parseStrict( aTargetURL );
Comment 29 Dennis Roczek 2024-12-22 14:07:30 UTC
I just want to add: NeoOffice keeps the menu entry "Tools" and "Help" when closing all windows.
Comment 30 Patrick (volunteer) 2024-12-22 14:53:11 UTC
(In reply to Dennis Roczek from comment #29)
> I just want to add: NeoOffice keeps the menu entry "Tools" and "Help" when
> closing all windows.

I doubt I'll use the NeoOffice approach as that implementation was both overly complicated and quite hacky as I wrote it back in 2005 (can't believe that was nearly 20 years ago).

Back then, the goal in NeoOffice was to never show the Start Center. Don't know why, but it was unpopular back in the hack I used was to make the Start Center a 1x1 pixel window with no titlebar that "hides" behind the macOS menubar. The idea was to show the Start Center in the menubar without showing the Start Center window. Managing the 1x1 pixel window proved to be very fragile as I ended up having to keep fixing the code after most new macOS releases.

Anyway, after I posted comment #28 I thought of another, simpler possible way to implement this. The Start Center and its menus get initialized early in the LibreOffice launch process. LibreOffice's macOS code also has a "default menus" which are the menus (currently only a single File menu) that LibreOffice sets the menubar to when no windows are visible.

My current idea is to modify the Start Center's initialization code so that when it loads its menus, the code also sets "default menubar menus" to the same menus. My guess is that most of the code changes will be figuring out how to wire that up.

Unfortunately, I need to finish my work a few other bugs and before I start work on this, so I haven't looked too closely at the code yet. But if my current idea  works, the Start Center's menus also become the "no windows default menus".
Comment 31 Dennis Roczek 2024-12-22 14:55:40 UTC Comment hidden (off-topic)
Comment 32 Heiko Tietze 2025-01-07 10:13:34 UTC Comment hidden (off-topic)
Comment 33 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-01-10 01:08:58 UTC
Created attachment 198456 [details]
Sorted list of all action commands that are in the Start Center menu

I have started to make a little bit of progress on this bug. There is still a lot of work to do, but I have figured out how to make a native copy of the Start Center menubar and swap that native menubar with the existing "no window" menubar.

None of the menus work yet as I need to connect all of the attached action commands to the applicable internal C++ handler function, but you can follow my progress in the following patch:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/179980
Comment 34 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-01-10 01:23:13 UTC
Created attachment 198457 [details]
Snapshot of current state
Comment 35 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-01-12 15:42:00 UTC
Created attachment 198501 [details]
Snapshot of updated "no windows" menubar

I have finished implementing the updated "no windows" menubar on macOS and, for the most part, I was able to recreate the Start Center menubar as shown in the attached snapshot.

I'll commit my change once the following patch passes all automated tests:

https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/c/core/+/179980
Comment 36 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-01-13 00:44:55 UTC
Created attachment 198506 [details]
Snapsnot of File > New menu in "no windows" menubar

I forgot to mention that I was able to preserve the key shortcuts for "open Startcenter" and the various "open new document" menu items that were in the previous "no window" menubar.
Comment 37 Commit Notification 2025-01-13 01:38:40 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/6efdd1444810e132ba37379dd39afa6a3220f541

tdf#41775 copy the Start Center menubar to the default menubar on macOS

It will be available in 25.8.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 38 Heiko Tietze 2025-01-13 09:38:36 UTC
Works like a charm. Awesome! (Please resolve fixed so I can check verify)
Comment 39 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-01-13 12:57:33 UTC
I have committed a fix for this bug. The fix should be in tomorrow's (14 December 2024) nightly master builds:

https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html

Note for macOS testers: the nightly master build installer does not overwrite any LibreOffice official versions. Instead, it will be installed as a separate application called "LibreOfficeDev" in the /Applications folder.

Because this is a "test" build, you will need to do the following steps before you launch the LibreOfficeDev application:

1. Go to the Finder and navigate to the /Applications/Utilities folder
2. Launch the "Terminal" application
3. Paste the following command in the Terminal application window and press the Return key to execute the command:

   xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreOfficeDev.app
Comment 40 Commit Notification 2025-01-14 09:16:49 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-25-2":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/05e78507e0e26886c04fdf02aba97c5fdc9060d3

tdf#41775 copy the Start Center menubar to the default menubar on macOS

It will be available in 25.2.1.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 41 Commit Notification 2025-01-30 11:49:14 UTC
Xisco Fauli committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-25-2":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/21a1b5fcf71fef946e16cfa9879f930ca84bc18b

Revert "tdf#41775 copy the Start Center menubar to the default menubar on macOS"

It will be available in 25.2.1.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 42 Commit Notification 2025-02-04 15:47:48 UTC
Adolfo Jayme Barrientos committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-25-2":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/e090f7de1a406e67eae84a5112ff9df8cd866bfb

Reapply "tdf#41775 copy the Start Center menubar to the default menubar on macOS"

It will be available in 25.2.1.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 43 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-02-21 22:09:13 UTC
Reopening as I found a case where the old "File only" menubar is still displayed. It happens when I launch LibreOffice by opening a document from the Finder.

Apparently, in this case, the Start Center window never appears so my code to saves a copy of the Start Center menubar never gets executed until you close all of the windows and force the Start Center to be displayed.

So, I need to investigate and see if there is any way to get my code to execute in this specific case.
Comment 44 Commit Notification 2025-03-09 02:17:30 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/9e3d8d0176bb1e95414e4a578065c2e1035a8dd6

Related: tdf#41775 show Start Center even if loading a document

It will be available in 25.8.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 45 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-03-09 02:59:03 UTC
I have committed a fix for this bug. The fix should be in tomorrow's (09 March 2025) nightly master builds:

https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html

Note for macOS testers: the nightly master build installer does not overwrite any LibreOffice official versions. Instead, it will be installed as a separate application called "LibreOfficeDev" in the /Applications folder.

Because this is a "test" build, you will need to do the following steps before you launch the LibreOfficeDev application:

1. Go to the Finder and navigate to the /Applications/Utilities folder
2. Launch the "Terminal" application
3. Paste the following command in the Terminal application window and press the Return key to execute the command:

   xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreOfficeDev.app
Comment 46 Commit Notification 2025-03-09 03:40:40 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-25-2":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/e9285d3c89593d98b8e6e328f4c578a8db4a6591

Related: tdf#41775 show Start Center even if loading a document

It will be available in 25.2.3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 47 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-03-09 14:48:04 UTC
(In reply to Patrick (volunteer) from comment #45)
> I have committed a fix for this bug. The fix should be in tomorrow's (09
> March 2025) nightly master builds:

Reopening as in the 09 March 2025 nightly master build, my fix apparently only works when documents are passed on the command line.

Opening from the Finder is still bypassing the creation of the Start Center so I will need to find where that is happening in the code.
Comment 48 Commit Notification 2025-03-09 16:48:45 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/5696cee879e6c6794c213cb3db294bb78e8680f6

Revert "Related: tdf#41775 show Start Center even if loading a document"

It will be available in 25.8.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 49 Commit Notification 2025-03-10 00:40:25 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-25-2":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/9da94ebd6de92841ce83d8b584edeabbe67f2d23

Revert "Related: tdf#41775 show Start Center even if loading a document"

It will be available in 25.2.3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 50 Commit Notification 2025-03-10 00:43:37 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "master":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/331ea32ec181aff739eaebee328281b190cad003

Related: tdf#41775 show Start Center when loading a document at launch

It will be available in 25.8.0.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 51 Commit Notification 2025-03-10 07:21:24 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-25-2":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/c8c25b6a16177f9e2cee99463dcf17edbc761a48

Related: tdf#41775 show Start Center when loading a document at launch

It will be available in 25.2.3.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.
Comment 52 Patrick (volunteer) 2025-03-10 12:44:59 UTC
I have committed a fix for the bug described in comment #43. The fix should be in tomorrow's (11 March 2025) nightly master builds:

https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/current.html

Note for macOS testers: the nightly master build installer does *not* overwrite any LibreOffice official versions. Instead, it will be installed as a separate application called "LibreOfficeDev" in the /Applications folder.

Because this is a "test" build, you will need to do the following steps before you launch the LibreOfficeDev application:

1. Go to the Finder and navigate to the /Applications/Utilities folder
2. Launch the "Terminal" application
3. Paste the following command in the Terminal application window and press the Return key to execute the command:

   xattr -d com.apple.quarantine /Applications/LibreOfficeDev.app
Comment 53 Commit Notification 2025-03-21 15:29:56 UTC
Patrick Luby committed a patch related to this issue.
It has been pushed to "libreoffice-25-2-2":

https://git.libreoffice.org/core/commit/d3a7432b753aeccc65ce804deb4d05ed036da0cf

Related: tdf#41775 show Start Center when loading a document at launch

It will be available in 25.2.2.

The patch should be included in the daily builds available at
https://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More
information about daily builds can be found at:
https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds

Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.