I downloaded an extension while LibreOffice was running and had no windows open; after the download, I switched back to LibreOffice to install the extension, and noticed the Tools menu was gone, so I had to open a document before I could install the extension. This makes no sense; most of the items on the Tools menu are only useful when a document is open, but every item in the last section - for example, Extension Manager - is not document specific and should remain available when no window is open. The same applies to almost every item in the Help menu.
[This is an automated message.] This bug was filed before the changes to Bugzilla on 2011-10-16. Thus it started right out as NEW without ever being explicitly confirmed. The bug is changed to state NEEDINFO for this reason. To move this bug from NEEDINFO back to NEW please check if the bug still persists with the 3.5.0 beta1 or beta2 prereleases. Details on how to test the 3.5.0 beta1 can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA/BugHunting_Session_3.5.0.-1 more detail on this bulk operation: http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/RFC-Operation-Spamzilla-tp3607474p3607474.html
No change in 3.5.0beta2
@Shad Sterling <https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/QA-FAQ#How_to_select_correct_Bug_Status> @Roman Can you confirm this problem?
@reporter: Thank you for your report – unfortunately important information is missing. May be hints on <http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/BugReport> will help you to find out what information will be useful to reproduce your problem? If you believe that that is really sophisticated please as for Help on a user mailing list Please: - Write a meaningful Summary describing exactly what the problem is - Attach screenshots with comments if you believe that that might explain the problem better than a text comment. Best way is to insert your screenshots into a DRAW document and to add comments that explain what you want to show - Contribute a document related step by step instruction containing every key press and every mouse click how to reproduce your problem (similar to example in Bug 43431) - add information -- what EXACTLY is unexpected -- and WHY do you believe it's unexpected (cite Help or Documentation!) -- concerning your OS (Version, Distribution, Language) -- concerning your LibO localization (UI language, Locale setting) –- Libo settings that might be related to your problems -- how you launch LibO -- everything else crossing your mind after you read linked texts Even if you can not provide all demanded information, every little new information might bring the breakthrough. It seems you are talking aboput LibO Start Center?
(In reply to comment #4) > @reporter: > Thank you for your report – unfortunately important information is missing. [...] I think I can answer for Shad Sterling here (but please correct me, Shad Sterling, if you meant something else!). > It seems you are talking about LibO Start Center? If I understand the original report right, Shad Sterling is talking about a different situation which just does not occur on Windows (I don't know about Linux): on MacOS and MacOS X, an application can be running *without* any open windows at all; the global menu bar of the application is still available even when all windows are closed. In LibreOffice, this happens if you close all document windows *and* the Start Center: the menu bar is still available, but contains only three entries: the System (Apple) menu, the application menu ("LibreOffice", containing mostly "Preferences" (Options) and "Quit LibreOffice") and the "File" menu. But there is no "Tools" menu and no "Help" menu, and this is what Shad Sterling is talking about. REPRODUCIBLE with * LibreOffice 3.4.0, OOO340m1 (Build:12) * LibreOffice 3.4.6, OOO340m1 (Build:602) * LibreOffice 3.5.5.3, Build-ID: 7122e39-92ed229-498d286-15e43b4-d70da21 * LibreOffice 3.6.0.0.beta3 (Build ID: 3e2b862) and also with * AOO 3.4.0 all with German langpack installed, all on MacOS X 10.6.8 (Intel). Shad Sterling is right, "this makes no sense", especially from the point of view of MacOS and MacOS X users. MacOS (7, 8, 9) and MacOS X (10.x) applications which conform to Apple's Human Interface Guidelines (HIG) *never* hide unused menus, they just disable them; if I remember correctly, Apple required this explicitely at least in the older versions of the HIG (I did not read the last revisions). If a application is very complex (like LibreOffice), it can temporarily exchange *some* of the menus to adapt to the current editing situation, just like LibreOffice shows different Menus in Writer, Calc, Impress, etc. But at least the standard menus, which are, according to Apple's HIG, the System (Apple) menu, the Application menu ("LibreOffice", does not exist on Windows?!), the menus "File", "Edit", often "Windows", and "Help", should *never* be hidden. If no entry of such a menu is applicable, e.g. in the "Edit" menu when no documents are open, just disable the complete menu, but do not hide it. So, at least on MacOS X, the menus "LibreOffice", "File", "Edit", "View", "Tools", "Windows", and "Help" should be visible under all circumstances. This is already true and working fine as long as the Start Center window is open. We just need to change the situation when no window at all is open: in this situation, the menu bar should look and behave just like when the Start Center is open.
@Thorsten Behrens: This is a simple and compelling bug report about a simple MacOS X UI issue; the problem is not dramatic, but on the other hand it should be rather easy to fix this, so please take a look at it. Maybe this could be an "Easy hack"? Sometimes such little UI improvements do most to make the application look professional. Thank you in advance!
@Roman Eisele, you have it right. I also see the same behavior with 3.5.5.3 on OS X 10.7.4. @Rainer Bielefeld, this bug is, as Roman elaborated, not about the Start Center, but about the LibreOffice menu items on the OS X menu bar when no windows are open. (Bug #41776 is about the Start Center.) Is any more information needed to understand this bug?
@Kendy, Could it be possible to fix this small but annoying issue? Or maybe some code pointers that would help people to have a look at it? It is a small but very Mac-unlike detail of LibreOffice. I appreciate any help about this. :) Regards,
Emir: This is OSX specific, right? - would be great to attach a screenshot to show what's going on :-)
Created attachment 89269 [details] Menus showing when Main Window is open
Created attachment 89270 [details] Only File menu is shown when no windows are open
Sorry for the late screenshots - attached them :))
Created attachment 89271 [details] File menu when no windows are open This menu should be removed I think, because it causes inconsistency among menus
Created attachment 89272 [details] File menu when a window is open This menu should appear
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No change in bug behavior in 4.4.2.2 on OS X 10.10.2.
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No change in bug behavior in 5.2.0.4 on OS X 10.11.6.
No change in bug behavior in 5.3.1.2 on OS X El Capitan 10.11.6.
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No change in bug behavior in 5.4.1.2 on OS X El Capitan 10.11.6. LibreOffice… About LibreOffice version information is: Version: 5.4.1.2 Build ID: ea7cb86e6eeb2bf3a5af73a8f7777ac570321527 CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.11.6; UI render: default; Locale: en-CA (en.UTF-8); Calc: group
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No change in bug behavior in 7.0.3.1 on OS X High Sierra 10.13.6. LibreOffice… About LibreOffice version information is: Version: 7.0.3.1 Build ID: d7547858d014d4cf69878db179d326fc3483e082 CPU threads: 8; OS: Mac OS X 10.13.6; UI render: default; VCL: osx Locale: en-CA (en_CA.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded Regarding the possibility of a regression, I have not tested this behaviour with LO version 3.3. However, note that the bug report dates back over 9 years to LO version 3.4.3. Please keep this in the queue, QA Administrators.
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As with every previous time, no change for more than 10 years now Version: 7.4.1.2 / LibreOffice Community Build ID: 3c58a8f3a960df8bc8fd77b461821e42c061c5f0 CPU threads: 16; OS: Mac OS X 13.2; UI render: default; VCL: osx Locale: en-US (en_US.UTF-8); UI: en-US Calc: threaded