When I compare the new look (since 2012-05-22) of the zoom slider at the bottom of a LibreOffice Writer window with the old (3.5.x) look, I get the impression that the zoom slider now always looks like disabled. I understand that the new look of the should be "Simpler, and more light-weight" (as stated in the committ message http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=bc1fd830be6165c364805c2ad09854ecc8e863a6 ). But at least to me, the new look seems a bit "too light-weight": these light shades of grey suggest to me (as a long-time MacOS X user) that this control is disabled and can't be used. You can see this on my Writer screenshots attached to bug 49914: * old look (3.5.4): attachment 61808 [details] * new look (3.6 Master): attachment 62061 [details] To enumerate en detail what's looking wrong to me: (1.) The main problem is the actual zoom slider, i.e. the horizontal line; I always think that there is missing a darker grey line somewhere, as expected in an enabled control. (2.) It is also possible that the slide zoom button (the round button which you move with the mouse) just needs to be darker on MacOS. (3.) A minor problem may be the plus (+) and minus (-) signs at the left and right of the zoom slider; if they are enabled, I would expect them to be a bit darker, more like the dark grey of the triangular arrows at the bottom of the vertical scroll bar at the right of the window. Please note: It is still possible that this new look is completely intentional, and that my doubts have already been considered and rejected. I don't know this, only the original designer (Mirek M.) and the programmer (Kendy) can tell us. If this is the case, you can close this bug, no problem! But I want to report it, and ask you to think a while about it before you close it, because (a) it is easily possible that there is at least missing a dark grey line somewhere; (b) there are some differences between what users of different operating systems expect, here in regard of how an enabled control should look like, and therefore, it is possible that a design which works completely well on Linux needs some little changes for MacOS X (and maybe for Windows?).
@Kendy: This is the second of my reports about visual problems related to the new UI look on MacOS X. I add your address to the CC list. I will send you a separate mail with a complete list of all my observations (including links to all bug reports) when I am done. Thank you very much in advance!
This is indeed a valid statement.
This is due the image of the slider button, defined here: http://opengrok.libreoffice.org/xref/core/svx/source/stbctrls/stbctrls.src#292 It looks like it is used on all platforms. Will have a look at Windows and Linux first. If it looks 'quite inactive' over there too, we might change it for all platforms. Otherwise for Mac OSX only.
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Created attachment 115272 [details] 2015-05-02 LO 5.0 nightly
Windows has a darker slider line. Low contrast is bad for users: http://contrastrebellion.com/
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Still present, needs UX advice if this is a valid concern or not
Yes, it is - and probably easy to hack. As the slider is completely self-drawn it will never fit into the system theme and look and feel. So we should go with just dark gray for the lines and black for the interactive elements (+/- "button" and thumb). Code pointer might be svx/source/stbctrls/zoomctrl.cxx This change will affect all platforms and should be verified carefully.
Patch https://gerrit.libreoffice.org/#/c/52912/ draws the slider in darkshadow, with a tiny lightshadow underneath.
Created attachment 141382 [details] New design
heiko tietze committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": http://cgit.freedesktop.org/libreoffice/core/commit/?id=7d10bcb23624db11ca6445f5cb33a28660f16fd4 tdf#50507 - zoom slider always looks like disabled It will be available in 6.1.0. The patch should be included in the daily builds available at http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/ in the next 24-48 hours. More information about daily builds can be found at: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Testing_Daily_Builds Affected users are encouraged to test the fix and report feedback.