Bug 54266 - UI: Table border tool (dialog Table, tab Border) too easily picks two borders near conjunction
Summary: UI: Table border tool (dialog Table, tab Border) too easily picks two borders...
Status: RESOLVED WONTFIX
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
Inherited From OOo
Hardware: Other All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Whiteboard: BSA
Keywords: needsUXEval
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Blocks: Borders-Tab Writer-Table-Properties-Dialog
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Reported: 2012-08-30 14:23 UTC by qqqqqqqqq9
Modified: 2021-07-09 18:24 UTC (History)
10 users (show)

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Description qqqqqqqqq9 2012-08-30 14:23:33 UTC
Problem description: 

Steps to reproduce:
1. create a table
2. select it
3. click table in the right click menu
4. try to change the right border by clicking approx. 1mm below a crossing

Current behavior:
Both the vertical and the horizontal line are changed.

Expected behavior:
Only the horizontal line should be changed.


Platform (if different from the browser): 
              
Browser: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686) AppleWebKit/534.34 (KHTML, like Gecko) konqueror/4.9.0 Safari/534.34
Comment 1 qqqqqqqqq9 2012-08-30 14:24:17 UTC
Expected behavior:
Only the VERTICAL line should be changed.
Comment 2 Michael Stahl (allotropia) 2012-10-31 13:24:54 UTC
it appears to me that this is a feature:
it should be possible to select 2 lines at once by clicking
on the intersection or corner, and the click area has to be
big enough so users can actually hit it.

if you click on the middle of the upper or lower half
of the right line then you select only that line.

Astron, Kendy do you agree to resolve this NOTABUG?
Comment 3 qqqqqqqqq9 2012-10-31 13:32:43 UTC
Hi,
my problem is, that i have to really concentrate to hit only 1 line. IMO if one wants a bigger 2-line area, one should make the lines broader instead of extending the 2-line-area into the area which is visually a one-line area.
Comment 4 qqqqqqqqq9 2012-10-31 13:43:47 UTC
Please note that i'm not arguing against a 2-line area but against a 2-line area which looks like a 1-line area.
Comment 5 Stefan Knorr (astron) 2012-11-02 15:28:52 UTC
Hi all,

I am mostly fine with the borders tool – but I agree with q9 that it can be hard to see what you're changing. I also agree with Michael that selecting two lines can be expected behaviour. The click areas are maybe a bit mushy an may need work – but for now, we can do something else...

Give the user more feedback on what he is selecting before clicking on it.

Right now, we show a dotted outline when the user clicks a border line, so we could just show the same dotted outline in a lighter colour (~ #999999) on mouse over.

(This will only help for people using mice but that should still be the majority of LibO users.)


(→ Setting to NEW.)
Comment 6 Chris Wilson 2013-05-01 06:07:30 UTC
*** Bug 64094 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 7 Chris Wilson 2014-08-14 19:08:38 UTC
*** Bug 82620 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 8 Chris Wilson 2015-01-17 21:14:17 UTC
*** Bug 88541 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Chris Wilson 2015-01-20 12:13:48 UTC
*** Bug 88626 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 10 Cor Nouws 2015-12-18 11:44:53 UTC
(those comments 6 to 9 are misplaced here...)
Comment 11 Telesto 2021-05-23 07:57:09 UTC
I vaguely remember putting this forward a while back at UX (can't find the bug) and assessment being feature

I'm not having much issue with the feature by itself, but it's to sensitive (so far to easy to trigger)
Comment 12 Heiko Tietze 2021-05-25 08:43:22 UTC
(In reply to Telesto from comment #11)
> I vaguely remember putting this forward a while back at UX...

In bug 139837, and my take was that the area is large enough. You don't need to click at "approx. 1mm below a crossing". It's a feature not a bug.