Bug 58353 - Difficult to tell whether cursor precedes or succeeds Aleef (ا) character
Summary: Difficult to tell whether cursor precedes or succeeds Aleef (ا) character
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
3.6.2.2 release
Hardware: Other All
: medium normal
Assignee: Not Assigned
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Blocks: Text-Cursor RTL-UI
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Reported: 2012-12-16 05:03 UTC by Mohsen Jamali
Modified: 2026-02-28 22:43 UTC (History)
7 users (show)

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Attachments
screen shot of cursor problem for RTL languages of libreoffice (152.99 KB, image/png)
2012-12-16 05:03 UTC, Mohsen Jamali
Details
using Mousepad text editor (20.48 KB, image/png)
2013-08-25 15:55 UTC, Ahmad Harthi
Details
Writer, the cursor stanign partially on the letter (67.16 KB, image/png)
2013-08-25 15:57 UTC, Ahmad Harthi
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cursor after the letter, Mousepad (20.55 KB, image/png)
2013-08-25 16:04 UTC, Ahmad Harthi
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cursor after the letter, Writer (47.21 KB, image/png)
2013-08-25 16:08 UTC, Ahmad Harthi
Details
LibreOffice vs Calligra at 250% (72.63 KB, image/png)
2015-03-24 12:36 UTC, Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
Details
sample doc (8.35 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2015-03-24 12:37 UTC, Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired)
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Description Mohsen Jamali 2012-12-16 05:03:37 UTC
Created attachment 71573 [details]
screen shot of cursor problem for RTL languages of libreoffice

Dear Libreoffice :)
My local language setting is Farsi(Persian). i have a cursor problem with this RTL language. "ا" is a charachter of Farsi alphabetic and when cursor is on it i can't know, whether the cursor is after or before this character. i have provided an screen shot that might help. i would be very happy if this bug fixes in future releases :)
Thanks for your great libre app.
Comment 1 Ahmad Harthi 2013-08-22 22:23:46 UTC
(In reply to comment #0)
> Created attachment 71573 [details]
> screen shot of cursor problem for RTL languages of libreoffice
> 
> Dear Libreoffice :)
> My local language setting is Farsi(Persian). i have a cursor problem with
> this RTL language. "ا" is a charachter of Farsi alphabetic and when cursor
> is on it i can't know, whether the cursor is after or before this character.
> i have provided an screen shot that might help. i would be very happy if
> this bug fixes in future releases :)
> Thanks for your great libre app.

Hi Mohsen,

Thanks for reporting this bug.

We'll try our best to get it solved.
Comment 2 Faisal Menawer 2013-08-25 07:43:44 UTC
hi

i think this is not a bug because it work as it expected.
the cursor suppose to be on the beginning of the character drawing
if it is before this character.

So, from the screen shot the cursor is before this "ا" char.
And if the cursor is after it, it suppose to be on the beginning of the next character.
Comment 3 Ahmad Harthi 2013-08-25 15:53:40 UTC
(In reply to comment #2)
> hi
> 
> i think this is not a bug because it work as it expected.
> the cursor suppose to be on the beginning of the character drawing
> if it is before this character.
> 
> So, from the screen shot the cursor is before this "ا" char.
> And if the cursor is after it, it suppose to be on the beginning of the next
> character.

Please give it a closer look, the cursor is standing partially on the letter not exactly behind the letter.

I'm marking it as reopened!!!

:P
Comment 4 Ahmad Harthi 2013-08-25 15:55:13 UTC
Created attachment 84602 [details]
using Mousepad text editor
Comment 5 Ahmad Harthi 2013-08-25 15:57:47 UTC
Created attachment 84603 [details]
Writer, the cursor stanign partially on the letter

Please compare it with previous screenshots..
Comment 6 Ahmad Harthi 2013-08-25 16:04:58 UTC
Created attachment 84604 [details]
cursor after the letter, Mousepad
Comment 7 Ahmad Harthi 2013-08-25 16:08:56 UTC
Created attachment 84605 [details]
cursor after the letter, Writer

Also there is a small space between the cursor and the last letter (compare it with Mousepad)
Comment 8 Joel Madero 2014-11-06 22:29:22 UTC
We need QA to confirm this (again perhaps) moving to UNCONFIRMED as REOPENED is incorrect. Thanks
Comment 9 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-03-24 12:36:32 UTC
Created attachment 114303 [details]
LibreOffice vs Calligra at 250%

Some of the problem here comes to zoom level and the font used, because at a higher zoom level, the cursor doesnt have this problem. But at 100%, the cursor should be placed more to the right, so that its not overlapping the 'l'.
Comment 10 Yousuf Philips (jay) (retired) 2015-03-24 12:37:26 UTC
Created attachment 114304 [details]
sample doc
Comment 11 tommy27 2016-04-16 07:26:00 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 QA Administrators 2017-05-22 13:21:39 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 13 QA Administrators 2019-12-03 14:08:46 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 14 QA Administrators 2021-12-03 04:28:13 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 15 QA Administrators 2023-12-04 03:15:43 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 16 Eyal Rozenberg 2023-12-04 22:48:40 UTC
To reproduce:

1. Open document in attachment 114304 [details]
2. Place the cursor before the aleef (ا) character in the word توا
3. Zoom out several times; in my case I found zoom 80% to be problematic.

Expected result:
The cursor clearly precedes the aleef

Actual result:
The cursor overlaps much of the aleef, so it is already not clear enough what their relative position is


Experiencing this with:

Version: 24.2.0.0.alpha1+ (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community
Build ID: 516f800f84b533db0082b1f39c19d1af40ab29c8
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 6.5; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: he-IL (en_IL); UI: en-US

at a zoom level of 80% on a 1920 x 1080-resolution desktop.
Comment 17 QA Administrators 2023-12-05 03:16:53 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 18 QA Administrators 2025-12-05 03:17:29 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 19 Eyal Rozenberg 2026-02-28 22:43:05 UTC
With:

Version: 26.8.0.0.alpha0+ (X86_64)
Build ID: 4bf07d898cd3084ff9012f11776d1489b103236c
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 6.12; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3
Locale: en-IL (en_IL); UI: en-US
Calc: CL threaded

the cursor is still quite close to the aleeph, but my cursor is blinking now (which it didn't use to for some reason), so this is not as much of a problem.