Bug 68576 - Pre-installed User-defined Dictionaries Can be neither Modified nor Deleted
Summary: Pre-installed User-defined Dictionaries Can be neither Modified nor Deleted
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Linguistic (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
4.1.0.4 release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Whiteboard: BSA
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Blocks: Dictionaries
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Reported: 2013-08-26 14:31 UTC by Harald Koester
Modified: 2025-10-02 17:14 UTC (History)
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Description Harald Koester 2013-08-26 14:31:29 UTC
Problem description: 
During installation some user-defined dictionaries are installed. In a parallel installation with all installed dictionaries these user-defined dictionaries are affected: en-GB [English (UK), en-US [English (USA)], sl [Slovenian], technical [All]. Generally I expect that a user-defined dictionary can be deleted and modified. Otherwise it is not user-defined. This does not work with the mentioned dictionaries.

Steps to reproduce:
[1] Display the user-defined dictionaries with: Tools > Options... > Language Settings > Writing Aids. 
[2] Select one of the mentioned dictionaries. It can't be deleted by clicking “Delete”. The button is greyed. Expected: Deletion of user-defined dictionary possible.
[3] Select one of the mentioned dictionaries and Click “Edit...”. An edit dialogue opens. 
[4] Select a word and try to delete it. This is not possible. The button “Delete” is greyed. Expected: Deletion possible.
[5] Type in a new word into the field “Word”.
[6] Try to insert this word into the dictionary. This is not possible. The button “New” is greyed. Expected: Insertion possible.

I wonder if it makes sense to install these dictionaries as user-defined dictionaries. I think it's better to install them as part of the general language dictionaries, so that they don't appear in the options dialogue.

Some words according to the “IgnoreAllList” dictionary: It took me some time to understand this 'dictionary'. Its main characteristic is that it is temporarily, it is always deleted when you close LibreOffice. So it's not really a dictionary. In order to emphasize this characteristic I propose to change the name of this 'dictionary' to “Temporary Word List” or something similar. Furthermore it should be possible to localize this name.	


Operating System: Windows 7
Version: 4.1.0.4 release
Comment 1 Harald Koester 2013-11-07 11:12:27 UTC
The main target of this report is the problem with dictionaries which can't be modified or deleted. Hence summary renamed again.
Comment 2 rpr 2014-05-31 10:45:20 UTC
I also see this issue in LibreOffice 4.2.4.2.

The pre-installed "user-defined" dictionaries (or wordbooks) can be found in the
following directory: <LO_install_dir>/share/wordbook/ as *.dic files.

On Windows I get four pre-installed dictionaries: en-GB.dic, en-US.dic, sl.dic, technical.dic, with dictionaries for all languages selected in the installation wizard during installation.

On Linux (e.g. Debian and Linux Mint) I see only technical.dic although language support for both en-US and en-GB has been installed.

The pre-installed wordbooks can't be modified or deleted by standard users as they are not allowed to change or delete installed program files.

I'd suggest that the pre-installed dictionaries have some additional mark in the User-defined dictionaries list so that they are distinguished from real user-defined dictionaries.
Comment 3 rpr 2015-09-04 13:21:44 UTC
I also see this issue in LibreOffice 5.0.1.2.

BTW, the summary used double negative which in standard English produce an affirmative (e.g. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negative and http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/neither).
Comment 4 rpr 2016-11-25 10:46:58 UTC
I still see this issue in LO 5.3.0Beta1 - tested on MS Windows 10 Pro.
Comment 5 Justin L 2025-10-02 17:14:49 UTC
Aren't these dictionaries "extensions"? So wouldn't you remove them by removing the extension?

Sounds like NOTABUG to me. Delete (in the Writing Aids context) is properly disabled, since the dictionary was not created in this context.