Bug 68576 - Pre-installed User-defined Dictionaries Can be neither Modified nor Deleted
Summary: Pre-installed User-defined Dictionaries Can be neither Modified nor Deleted
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Linguistic (show other bugs)
(earliest affected) release
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
Assignee: Not Assigned
Whiteboard: BSA
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Blocks: Dictionaries
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Reported: 2013-08-26 14:31 UTC by Harald Koester
Modified: 2022-04-05 09:29 UTC (History)
2 users (show)

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Description Harald Koester 2013-08-26 14:31:29 UTC
Problem description: 
During installation some user-defined dictionaries are installed. In a parallel installation with all installed dictionaries these user-defined dictionaries are affected: en-GB [English (UK), en-US [English (USA)], sl [Slovenian], technical [All]. Generally I expect that a user-defined dictionary can be deleted and modified. Otherwise it is not user-defined. This does not work with the mentioned dictionaries.

Steps to reproduce:
[1] Display the user-defined dictionaries with: Tools > Options... > Language Settings > Writing Aids. 
[2] Select one of the mentioned dictionaries. It can't be deleted by clicking “Delete”. The button is greyed. Expected: Deletion of user-defined dictionary possible.
[3] Select one of the mentioned dictionaries and Click “Edit...”. An edit dialogue opens. 
[4] Select a word and try to delete it. This is not possible. The button “Delete” is greyed. Expected: Deletion possible.
[5] Type in a new word into the field “Word”.
[6] Try to insert this word into the dictionary. This is not possible. The button “New” is greyed. Expected: Insertion possible.

I wonder if it makes sense to install these dictionaries as user-defined dictionaries. I think it's better to install them as part of the general language dictionaries, so that they don't appear in the options dialogue.

Some words according to the “IgnoreAllList” dictionary: It took me some time to understand this 'dictionary'. Its main characteristic is that it is temporarily, it is always deleted when you close LibreOffice. So it's not really a dictionary. In order to emphasize this characteristic I propose to change the name of this 'dictionary' to “Temporary Word List” or something similar. Furthermore it should be possible to localize this name.	

Operating System: Windows 7
Version: release
Comment 1 Harald Koester 2013-11-07 11:12:27 UTC
The main target of this report is the problem with dictionaries which can't be modified or deleted. Hence summary renamed again.
Comment 2 rpr 2014-05-31 10:45:20 UTC
I also see this issue in LibreOffice

The pre-installed "user-defined" dictionaries (or wordbooks) can be found in the
following directory: <LO_install_dir>/share/wordbook/ as *.dic files.

On Windows I get four pre-installed dictionaries: en-GB.dic, en-US.dic, sl.dic, technical.dic, with dictionaries for all languages selected in the installation wizard during installation.

On Linux (e.g. Debian and Linux Mint) I see only technical.dic although language support for both en-US and en-GB has been installed.

The pre-installed wordbooks can't be modified or deleted by standard users as they are not allowed to change or delete installed program files.

I'd suggest that the pre-installed dictionaries have some additional mark in the User-defined dictionaries list so that they are distinguished from real user-defined dictionaries.
Comment 3 rpr 2015-09-04 13:21:44 UTC
I also see this issue in LibreOffice

BTW, the summary used double negative which in standard English produce an affirmative (e.g. see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negative and http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/neither).
Comment 4 rpr 2016-11-25 10:46:58 UTC
I still see this issue in LO 5.3.0Beta1 - tested on MS Windows 10 Pro.