Bug 70676 - PRINTING: Difficulties with combining smaller pages on a bigger one
Summary: PRINTING: Difficulties with combining smaller pages on a bigger one
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
Version:
(earliest affected)
4.1.2.3 release
Hardware: x86-64 (AMD64) Linux (All)
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Blocks: Print
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Reported: 2013-10-20 15:18 UTC by Markus Elfring
Modified: 2020-06-07 09:24 UTC (History)
4 users (show)

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simple test document (10.73 KB, application/vnd.oasis.opendocument.text)
2013-10-20 15:18 UTC, Markus Elfring
Details
scanned sheet of paper ISO A4 for a print result from Stylus C84 with CUPS on openSUSE (2.53 MB, image/png)
2013-11-10 10:51 UTC, Markus Elfring
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Description Markus Elfring 2013-10-20 15:18:55 UTC
Created attachment 87881 [details]
simple test document

I try the current word processor out a bit in a KDE 4.11.2 session. I put some text into a document where I chose the page size "ISO A5" (orientation "Landscape"). I opened the print dialogue where the printer "Epson Stylus C84" (driven by "CUPS+Gutenprint v5.2.9") was selected while it provided a standard page size "ISO A4". I chose two pages per sheet and pressed the button "Print" (because the small preview looked fine).

I observed that the output was mostly misplaced. It seems that the applied page size was shrunken on the paper in an unexpected way.
Comment 1 Markus Elfring 2013-11-10 10:51:08 UTC
Created attachment 88964 [details]
scanned sheet of paper ISO A4 for a print result from Stylus C84 with CUPS on openSUSE

Does my approach work with a different driver for a concrete device?
Comment 2 raal 2014-12-23 22:12:18 UTC
Please test with current version of LO. I have not problem with LO 4.3.3 and cups-pdf printer.
Please change the status back to UNCONFIRMED if bug still occurs in LO 4.3.x. Thank you
Comment 3 QA Administrators 2015-07-18 17:35:08 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 4 Markus Elfring 2015-07-19 19:50:42 UTC
(In reply to raal from comment #2)

My printer has changed in the meantime. So I can give further feedback for the initial print task at least.

I have specified to print three A5 pages with the device "Kyocera P6021cdn" in a Windows 7 session by the program "LibreOffice Writer 4.4.4.3" with the setup option "two pages per sheet" a moment ago.
I expected that a single sheet of paper would be presented with text on both sides. But I got three A4 sheets.
Comment 5 derstuttgarter 2015-07-31 19:04:16 UTC
I've got the same problem.

Create a A5-Document, choose print - page layout - 2 pages per sheet. LO tries to print two pages on one A5-page, even if printer settings say, page size is A4.
(Tested with different printers, with LO 4.4.5.)

Worked correctly (2 A5-pages on 1 A4-page) in previous versions and still works in AOO 4.1.1.

Would be nice if it could be fixed. Thanks for your good work!
Comment 6 raal 2015-07-31 19:14:59 UTC
Confirmed in comment 5, setting to NEW.
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2016-09-20 10:20:39 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Markus Elfring 2016-09-21 19:32:19 UTC
(In reply to QA Administrators from comment #7)

I have checked the software situation with components like the following again.
* Linux 4.6
* LibreOffice Writer 5.2.0.4-1.1
* CUPS 2.1.3-195.5
* Kyocera P6021cdn (KPDL)


I can open the dialogue "Properties of …" (from the dialogue "Printing") as usual.
Now I wonder about the detail that the fields "Paper size" and "Orientation" seem to be greyed out while the size "A5" is displayed there. I would appreciate to switch to the standard size "A4" somehow.

Under which circumstances should the combination of smaller pages on a bigger one work as desired?
Comment 9 Xisco Faulí 2017-09-29 08:48:09 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 10 Markus Elfring 2017-10-08 13:45:38 UTC
(In reply to Xisco Faulí from comment #9)

I have checked the software situation with components like the following again.
* Linux 4.11.1
* LibreOffice Writer 5.4.1.2-555.1, Build-ID: 40m0(Build:2)
* CUPS 2.2.3-214.3
* Kyocera P6021cdn (KPDL)


I duplicated the page from my test document. Now it is possible to get two small pages on a single A4 page printed. But I find the text positions wrong for the output from the second page in such a test case (while the print preview looked so promising in the dialogue “Printing” after the selection of the layout “2 pages per sheet”).


I would like to know also if a single small page from an example document could be automatically duplicated on the chosen bigger page format (without immediate form feeds).
Comment 11 QA Administrators 2018-10-09 02:53:30 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 12 Markus Elfring 2018-10-09 18:22:18 UTC
(In reply to QA Administrators from comment #11)
I would appreciate a more constructive feedback to my previous questions.

Software components:
* LibreOffice Writer 6.1.2.1-735.4, Build-ID: 10(Build:1)
* CUPS 2.3b4-231.1
Comment 13 Thomas Lendo 2019-08-19 19:34:39 UTC
Adding keyword 'regression' as commenters stated that it was OK in old versions of LibreOffice.

Markus, not many people are reading here and answering questions. I assume ask.libreoffice.org is a better place. The bug is registered and will be considered for fixing when there is a developer who wants to fix it.
Comment 14 Buovjaga 2020-06-06 17:39:58 UTC
Now there are some new settings: what if you activate "Use only paper size from printer preferences" in the printer Properties dialog? Then you can select A4 as the paper size and orientation how you like. It seems to work for me.
Comment 15 Markus Elfring 2020-06-06 18:50:27 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #14)
How should pages be combined for a bigger page then?

Background information for possible combinations (I would be interested in):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paper_size#/media/File:A_size_illustration2_with_letter_and_legal.svg
Comment 16 Buovjaga 2020-06-06 18:58:13 UTC
(In reply to Markus Elfring from comment #15)
> (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #14)
> How should pages be combined for a bigger page then?

My proposal was in my comment 14. Did you try it? What is wrong with it?
Comment 17 Markus Elfring 2020-06-06 19:40:47 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #14)
Do you find a related topic like “New Print dialog is too high” interesting?
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=127782
Comment 18 Markus Elfring 2020-06-06 20:08:41 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #16)
> What is wrong with it?

I have missed indications that you responded to earlier clarification requests for this issue.
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70676#c10


I observe still questionable software behaviour with the print dialogue from the program "LibreOffice Writer 6.4.4.2” (VCL: gtk3).
Comment 19 Buovjaga 2020-06-07 06:22:57 UTC
(In reply to Markus Elfring from comment #18)
> (In reply to Buovjaga from comment #16)
> > What is wrong with it?
> 
> I have missed indications that you responded to earlier clarification
> requests for this issue.
> https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=70676#c10

Is your comment 10 referring to the same workflow I described in my comment 14?
Comment 20 Markus Elfring 2020-06-07 07:50:33 UTC
(In reply to Buovjaga from comment #19)
The paper size selection is probably working.
I became more concerned about the safe application of the print configuration parameter “pages per sheet”.
https://help.libreoffice.org/6.4/en-GB/text/swriter/guide/print_small.html