There is some confusion, what LibO should do when "1 3" is typed for the pages to print. For comparison, the behaviour of MS Word 2000: "1-3" prints pages 1, 2, 3 "1;3" prints pages 1, 3 "1,3" prints pages 1, 3 "1 3" prints nothing "1-2 3" prints pages 1, 2, 3 1.) I think, LibO should interpret the syntax "compatible" to MS Word. 2.) So "1 3" would be reasonable to interpret as "1,3"; otherwise in extreme cases, plenty of unwanted pages are printed. 3.) If LibO doesn't want to accept the "1 3" syntax, it should throw an error message instead wasting potentially huge amount of paper or doing nonsense as described in bug 44424. 4.) Some applications also deal with "item1 item2" as list of distinct multiple items, e.g. multiple email addresses in To field of email clients. So this seems common expected behaviour. 5.) Like in MS Word 2000, there should be a little hint in the print dialogue about correct/accepted syntax, e.g.: "Single pages should be separated by Komma Semicola or Blank and ranges by hyphen, e.g: 1,3 5-12"
Hi, the number of printed pages is shown at the bottom of the preview on the left and if you want to have a hint about the syntax, please activate the extended tips in Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General, that will give you all the indication of the separators to use. Currently the 1 3 syntax is considered the same as 1-3 syntax. Closing as not a bug, all the information is present in the dialog - Sophie
Hi Sophie, according 5.) I agree with you - thanks for your hint - but not according 1.) - 4.) Imagine, someone types "1,3 5,6". From the number of printed pages "1/5" it is not clear, if pages 1,3,4,5,6 or 1,2,3,5,6 are printed. From 4.) I would expect that 1,3,5,6 are printed. BTW: In MS Word 2000: "1,3 5,6" prints pages 1, 6 "1-2 4" prints pages 1, 2, 3, 4 "1 2 4" prints nothing This is inconsistent either ;-) The extended tips do not define ' ' and ',' as valid syntax, so IMHO LibO should throw an error message or mention the treatment of those separators in the extended tips. I still think, ' ' should better treated as ';' instead '-', because of 4.). Only '-' or '..' is unambiguously to interpret as syntax for a range of pages.
All commentators of bug 44424 referred to "1,3" syntax, but according the extended tips, "1;3" is the correct syntax, so I feel this as another argument for clarification.
Moving back to UNCONFIRMED as there is no confirmation on the bug. If a 2nd QA member also agrees with Sophie we'll close this and not move it forward but let's wait to see what a second person says. Thanks
@Sophie: Could you please help me, how this extended tips function helps here? To display an extended tip you need to press Shift + F1 and then you need to point to a button or command. But nothing happens in the Print dialogue (clicking on "Pages" or the input field next to it), so that it does for me currently not help. If you get there an extended tip, could you please inform whether you had done something different, that I can test it once more if this works also on my LO 4.3.3.2, Win 8.1. Thank you very much in advance. I would propose to add this syntax information to the help page, because currently you can find there no information about this. For me the help page would be the first place to look for more information, because I suppose most users do not know this extended tips function and would not look for it in the TOOLS menu. Due to the situation explained above, I unfortunately can currently not fully assess the problem itself. But nevertheless I think the extended tips is not enough. Furthermore, the help page needs to be corrected. The English online LO help page says "Press Shift+F1 or choose Help - What's This? and point to any control element in the Print dialog to see an extended help text." If you have opened the Print dialogue box then you cannot open the help page at the same time. In addition, the German translation of the "Tips and Extended Tips" does not say that the extended tips can be shown with Shift + F1.
Hi Andy, I've an extended tooltip if I put the cursor in the field in front of Page. Do you have the help installed on your computer? I just checked and I agree that the help page could be more descriptive about the accepted syntax. Sophie
(In reply to sophie from comment #6) > ... > I just checked and > I agree that the help page could be more descriptive about the accepted > syntax. Sophie so I set status to NEW
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Still reproducible in LO 5.4 Actual behavior 1,3 only page 1 is printed 1;3 page 1 and 3 are printed (as expected) 1-3 page 1,2 and three are printed (as expected) 1 3 preview in the printing dialog shows three pages but only page 1 is printed Expected behaviour 1,3 page 1 and 3 are printed or an error message pops up 1 3 syntax is not clear => an error message pops up Version: 5.4.3.2 (x64) Build-ID: 92a7159f7e4af62137622921e809f8546db437e5 CPU-Threads: 4; Betriebssystem:Windows 6.19; UI-Render: Standard; Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE); Calc: group
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Behaviour in Version: 6.1.4.2 (x64) Build-ID: 9d0f32d1f0b509096fd65e0d4bec26ddd1938fd3 CPU-Threads: 4; BS: Windows 10.0; UI-Render: Standard; Gebietsschema: de-DE (de_DE); Calc: group threaded 1,3 page 1 and 3 are printed (as expected) 1;3 page 1 and 3 are printed (as expected) 1-3 page 1,2 and 3 are printed (as expected) 1 3 page 1,2 and 3 are printed => WORKSFORME Ulf, if you don't agree, üplease feel free to reopen the bug with a short reasoning.
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #12) > 1,3 page 1 and 3 are printed (as expected) > 1;3 page 1 and 3 are printed (as expected) > 1-3 page 1,2 and 3 are printed (as expected) > 1 3 page 1,2 and 3 are printed Case 2 and 3 are OK for me. Case 1 and 4 are not descripted in the tooltip help. Case 1 is intuitive, so not a big problem. Case 4 is not intuitive as with space I would expect that only pages 1 and 3 were printed.
(In reply to Ulf Zibis from comment #13) > Case 1 and 4 are not descripted in the tooltip help. I don't get those tooltips, although I have activated extended tooltips in Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General. What version you are using?
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #14) > I don't get those tooltips, although I have activated extended tooltips in > Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General. What version you are using? Version: 6.0.7.3 Build-ID: 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 You may have to restart LO.
(In reply to Ulf Zibis from comment #15) > (In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #14) > > I don't get those tooltips, although I have activated extended tooltips in > > Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General. What version you are using? > > Version: 6.0.7.3 > Build-ID: 1:6.0.7-0ubuntu0.18.04.2 > > You may have to restart LO. Could you please try to reproduce it with a master build from http://dev-builds.libreoffice.org/daily/master/ ? You can install it alongside the standard version. I have set the bug's status to 'NEEDINFO'. Please change it back to 'UNCONFIRMED' if the bug is still present in the master build
Still same result as described in comment 12 in Version: 6.3.0.0.alpha0+ (x64) Build ID: 411f3a050ac2be598019d512f8ccfe041080c28f CPU threads: 4; OS: Windows 10.0; UI render: default; VCL: win; TinderBox: Win-x86_64@42, Branch:master, Time: 2019-01-14_03:17:11 Locale: en-US (de_DE); UI-Language: en-US Calc: threaded Still no tooltips.
(In reply to Dieter Praas from comment #14) > I don't get those tooltips, although I have activated extended tooltips in > Tools > Options > LibreOffice > General. What version you are using? Tooltips are "Extended tips" and it should come from Offline help. But: - help doesn't explain that: https://help.libreoffice.org/6.2/en-US/text/shared/optionen/01010600.html? - they don't work per Bug 120538. If I understand this bug well, all works except it's not documented. If so, I'll convert to Documentation. Current help from 6.2 is https://help.libreoffice.org/6.2/en-US/text/shared/01/01130000.html But it doesn't explain syntax. In "Printing text documents:" there should be a subtitle '"Pages to print" syntax'. As for "1 3" I personally agree it could be "1,3" but someone will expect "1-3". I guess no solution for all here. Anyway, let's start with documenting. Note: to complicate somewhat, new dialog in 6.3+ doesn't open correct Help: I'll report.
Ulf, please don't change. "Reopened" is not correct status, see Help on that. We cannot have both documentation and space in a single bug.
(In reply to Timur from comment #19) > Ulf, please don't change. Sorry for that. > "Reopened" is not correct status, see Help on that. Why, as the bug was marked as "Resolved" before? Why you added "Writer" to the summary, as the problem concerns all LO Components?
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/page.cgi?id=fields.html#bug_status
Seth Chaiklin committed a patch related to this issue. It has been pushed to "master": https://git.libreoffice.org/help/commit/15e0e4742d13a76837daf5dd666b7d57b4651a92 Resolves: tdf#73398 and tdf#107192 help for printing range of pages
It takes a few days before the online help is updated from the patch to "master", but soon it should be possible to see the help at: https://help.libreoffice.org/7.1/en-US/text/swriter/guide/print_selection.html Closing as FIXED.
VERIFIED. Thanks for fixing it.