Bug 88121 - EDITING: When "Apply user data" unchecked, "Total editing time" And "Revision number" go blank
Summary: EDITING: When "Apply user data" unchecked, "Total editing time" And "Revision...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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Inherited From OOo
Hardware: Other All
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: 121414 152578 (view as bug list)
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Blocks: File-Properties Privacy
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Reported: 2015-01-06 17:42 UTC by Amir Adar
Modified: 2022-12-25 12:10 UTC (History)
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Description Amir Adar 2015-01-06 17:42:26 UTC
Steps to reproduce:
1. Open a file (new or existing)
2. Go to File > Properties...
3. Uncheck "Apply user data" and click "OK"
4. Save the file
5. Go to File > Properties...

Current behavior:
The fields "Total editing time" and "Revision number" go blank

Expected behavior:
The two fields should have the same value as when "Apply user data" is checked.

Linux Mint 17.1, 32-bit.
Comment 1 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2015-01-16 18:40:31 UTC
(In reply to Amir Adar from comment #0)
> 3. Uncheck "Apply user data" and click "OK"
> ... 
> Current behavior:
> The fields "Total editing time" and "Revision number" go blank
> 
> Expected behavior:
> The two fields should have the same value as when "Apply user data" is
> checked.

AFAIK, if we don't apply user data in this context then there's no metadata available to calculate the Total editing time and the revision # of the document.

Would a different label be clearer? maybe "Save metadata concerning editing?"

But I'll toss this over to the UX Cabal for clarity.

Status -> NEW
Component -> ux-advise
Comment 2 Amir Adar 2015-01-17 14:38:59 UTC
I see. So it's a matter of definition?

What is considered as "user data", then?
Comment 3 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2015-01-28 02:12:31 UTC
(In reply to Amir Adar from comment #2)
> I see. So it's a matter of definition?
> 
> What is considered as "user data", then?

Good question. I'd imagine that user data would encompass all the metadata that isn't directly inferred from the contents of the document(s) being edited. But that's just a guess.
Comment 4 Amir Adar 2015-01-29 10:29:35 UTC
So would those properties directly inferred from the contents of the document be the properties that also appear when you right-click on the file and select "Properties" in the file-browser?
Comment 5 Robinson Tryon (qubit) 2016-08-25 04:44:55 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 6 Heiko Tietze 2017-08-14 11:41:46 UTC
"[ ] Apply user data" comes along with the execution via button labelled "Reset Properties". So what the user expects is likely that he/she resets metadata either with or without applying own data. But nothing should happen when the dialog is closed. 

So I suggest to not change the metadata unless reset properties is pressed. 

(removing UX)
Comment 7 QA Administrators 2018-08-15 02:33:19 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 8 Xisco Faulí 2018-11-14 18:28:33 UTC
*** Bug 121414 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***
Comment 9 Xisco Faulí 2018-11-14 18:28:57 UTC
Reproduced in

Version: 6.2.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: db01b26d2e7d6626b7504fc7ee6ba6aac50e6098
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.15; UI render: default; VCL: gtk3; 
Locale: ca-ES (ca_ES.UTF-8); UI-Language: en-US
Calc: threaded

Version: 4.3.0.0.alpha1+
Build ID: c15927f20d4727c3b8de68497b6949e72f9e6e9e

LibreOffice 3.3.0 
OOO330m19 (Build:6)
tag libreoffice-3.3.0.4
Comment 10 sdc.blanco 2020-10-07 00:40:02 UTC
Shorter STR:
1. Open a file (new or existing)
2. File > Properties...
3. Uncheck "Apply user data" and click "OK"
4. File > Properties...

Reproduced:  "Total editing time" and "Revision number" are blank.

5. Check "Apply user data" and click "OK"
6. File > Properties...

They are back again.

Additional information.
1.  Did not matter if file was saved, reloaded, etc., just whether "Apply user data" was checked.

2.  Other Properties (Last printed, Modified, Size are not affected) by unchecking "Apply user data"

Version: 7.1.0.0.alpha0+ (x86)
Build ID: f90500754fac014638214b5e061832b2c518aab6
CPU threads: 8; OS: Windows 10.0 Build 19041; UI render: Skia/Raster; VCL: win
Locale: da-DK (en_DK); UI: en-US
Calc: threaded
Comment 11 larson 2021-10-12 21:51:05 UTC
Personally, I don't a problem that this data is erased.

What bothers me is that it makes impossible for Writer to detect if the template has been changed when I open documents based on it.

I reported it here: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=145047
Comment 12 Mike Kaganski 2022-12-25 12:10:27 UTC
*** Bug 152578 has been marked as a duplicate of this bug. ***