Bug 94472 - Proposal for working in documents on two positions in side by side (so vertical) panes
Summary: Proposal for working in documents on two positions in side by side (so vertic...
Status: NEW
Alias: None
Product: LibreOffice
Classification: Unclassified
Component: Writer (show other bugs)
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Inherited From OOo
Hardware: All All
: medium enhancement
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Blocks: Writer-Enhancements
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Reported: 2015-09-23 17:26 UTC by epimitheas
Modified: 2023-07-18 20:51 UTC (History)
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Screenshot of what i think enchantment would be like. (799.02 KB, image/jpeg)
2015-09-23 17:26 UTC, epimitheas
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Description epimitheas 2015-09-23 17:26:26 UTC
Created attachment 118976 [details]
Screenshot of what i think enchantment would be like.

Hello and sry to bother you , today at work i came up with a possible good feature that would be great to have in Writer.

I will try to describe my idea from the user's point of view.

### Situation so far ###
When you make a writer document , its always a big-chunk of text (data etc). You can add bookmarks and other stuff to move around in the document, but its always organised in a "serial" way.

### Proposal(s) ###
1.Instead of having in each document the data arranged in a "serial" way, make the data "re-arrangeable" (dunno if such a word exists) in sections that will appear as different portions of the same document. Each section will behave seperately from the rest. Just like in calc where in each file you can have many sheets included , think of a document where you can start with a page (just like now) and further while typing , add another "chapter" where u can work in parallel. You can jump at different "chapters" fast , without losing the point you were working at.
2. These "chapters" can also be used as default bookmarks while exporting to pdf.
3. The GUI can even go further , by letting the user have 2 different "chapters" from the same document, viewed side-by-side at the same time.
4. While printing , user can be asked whether to pring all chapters etc.
5. When exporting to other formats (microsfoot etc) , you can just add (in the old serial way) , one "chapter" after another to make the compatible format file.

### Typical examples where is can be usefull ###
1.Think of a book with many chapters. When u write it, instead of having to make each chapter hard to find or even save them in different files, u can now have all of them in one piece and "jump" in and out of each "chapter" fast without searching .
2. when typing an article and want to make a reference list right-away you can use another "chapter" as a temporary notepad , working at the same time and finishing it at the end.

### Worst case scenario ###
Feature is not usefull and noone uses it 


I hope my description was usefull and understood , i add a picture of what i think it would be like.

Thank you for your time !!!

ETC i hope my idea isnt already included somewhere ,and i havent discovered it yet (plz dont flame me if so :/ )
Comment 1 Cor Nouws 2015-09-26 18:10:37 UTC
Thanks for your idea and the nice screen pictures epimitheas.
At the moment you can already use Window > New window (now there are two of the same document, so you can work on various places and set the windows side by side.)
Not the same as your idea... But it works.
We can set your idea as enhancement, but there's not much change that it will be considered important enough by developers, I honestly think..

So, what to do?
Cheers - Cor
Comment 2 epimitheas 2015-09-27 21:55:25 UTC
Thanx for reply 

I just thought to propose it , it doesnt mind if it doesnt make it ...

Maybe one day , people will find it more usefull and it gets in a version :)


Until then , there are ways to get simiral results.

Thanx again
Comment 3 paulystefan 2020-04-02 19:13:00 UTC
mso 2016 includes this feature

it is a feature of zoom.

one page high max and two pages wide

in german Ansicht -> mehrere Seiten

translation english

view -> some pages
Comment 4 Heiko Tietze 2022-01-18 07:26:39 UTC Comment hidden (obsolete)
Comment 5 Mike Kaganski 2023-06-19 14:21:58 UTC
I do not see how a request to have *tabs* corresponding to different parts of a document be a dupe of a request to have different documents side by side. Even bug 42428 is not the same (absolutely), even though it talks about working in the same document.

(In reply to Heiko Tietze from comment #4)
> Better to consolidate the requests.

... but not by finding wrong dupes ;)
Comment 6 Eyal Rozenberg 2023-06-20 11:03:16 UTC
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #5)
> I do not see how a request to have *tabs* corresponding to different parts
> of a document 

Which of the bugs talks about tabs? This one doesn't, and I don't see tabs discussed in 31481 either. Can you better clarify how this bug is not subsumed by 31481?


On an unrelated note: I fail to see what this feature offers over the ability to have two windows editing/viewing the same document. epimitheas does not seem to have answered this question when Cor asked it back in 2015.
Comment 7 Mike Kaganski 2023-06-20 11:05:43 UTC
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #6)

Please look at attachment 118976 [details] from comment 0; and pay attention to the bottom of the screenshot, where the tabs are proposed.
Comment 8 Mike Kaganski 2023-06-20 11:11:12 UTC
(In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #7)

Note that the proposal was not limited to the "side by side" piece on that screenshot (i.e., already the second piece there - "Chapters" enabled" - was the proposal); and that the last "side-by-side" piece didn't propose any split window. So no, while it has some superficial similarity with *42428* (which is about looking into several parts of the *same* document), it is not the same; and answering the following:

(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #6)
> Can you better clarify how this bug is not subsumed by 31481?

please read bug 31481 comment 96.
Comment 9 madisonabubakar 2023-07-03 01:30:44 UTC Comment hidden (spam)
Comment 10 madisonabubakar 2023-07-03 01:31:41 UTC Comment hidden (spam)
Comment 11 epimitheas 2023-07-18 20:51:58 UTC
(In reply to Eyal Rozenberg from comment #6)
> (In reply to Mike Kaganski from comment #5)
> > I do not see how a request to have *tabs* corresponding to different parts
> > of a document 
> 
> Which of the bugs talks about tabs? This one doesn't, and I don't see tabs
> discussed in 31481 either. Can you better clarify how this bug is not
> subsumed by 31481?
> 
> 
> On an unrelated note: I fail to see what this feature offers over the
> ability to have two windows editing/viewing the same document. epimitheas
> does not seem to have answered this question when Cor asked it back in 2015.

Just to clarify to  Eyal Rozenberg and Cor, about what was the intended purpose of this feature back then (what it would offer to the user):

If you are working on a multi-page document (f.e. a book, or a thesis) that consists of many sections/sub-sections/annexes etc, and you want to be able to view at the same time what you have typed in another part of your document for the same issue, then you can use this feature to save time (and effort).

You can either use the chapters tabs to "jump" between different parts of the document that you are current using/modifying (not just jump to a predefined bookmark at the start of each chapter) or u can expand the viewport to view at the same time multiple chapters (at the exact point you wish to).

It just offers convenience to the user that in a different case has to scroll up-down or remember where exactly in his document and what he has mentioned for the same matter.

Eitherway, back then i used to work on big documents and seemed a good idea (my solution was to create a duplicate file and reopen it on a different window..).